Nope, this was not meant as a response to someone in particular. Since you won't show me your tits anyway, this sounds like a good idea.
In neither of the links you posted is the term bit even mentioned. So where's the connection, please?
How do you get from frequency to bit, please? Although in the link you posted the term bit is mentioned several times I couldn't find any relation to this 16-24bit thread. 24bit isn't even mentioned one single time. I still see no connection between 'crispyness' or 'open sounding' (or whatever you or some else likes to call it) and bit resolution. To sampling rate yes, but that should be clear. Again, the first 16bit of 16bit and 24bit are identical. If you can show me a measurement that proves me wrong, I've no problems to admit this.
Well, right, I should have specified: Shannon's SAMPLING theorem. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/sampling-theorem
I imported the 16bit FLAC file straight into my DAW (Audition in Destructive mode), and made NO adjustments. The problem is that NO ONE looks at graphs this way. I've been doing this for almost every week for 12 years. If people did this, they would accept this is a common & natural occurrence. the -96dB figure comes from an in appropriate definition of DR . (6*bits)dB gives us the RMS noise of the entire broadband signal, https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html , not a partial. So if there is some sound above -96, then some other parts can go below -96. Last edited: Feb 28, 2020
Yes, and FFT DSP typically requires floating point. But your DAW bitdepth has got NOTHING to do with file bitdepth unless it's lossy (which it's not). I have NO FX on. Stop trying to find excuses to not believe it. Try it for yourself. Load a 16bit file, and look at the noise floor. Also, You clearly didn't try to understand my points or read the link. Last edited: Feb 29, 2020
chill man im not trying to argue or discredit you, im not an expert when it comes to bit depth. i just think that when you import 16bit audio into a DAW that uses 32bit float, it gets converted to 32bit float, so you will see the noise of a 32bit float signal. i could be wrong though, im just pretty sure i saw that somewhere. something to be aware of.
As long as you don't touch any faders, nothing at all happens. If you lower the track's fader the DAW's bit resolution comes into place and will show the files as (in this case) 32bitFP, but the file still isn't altered: Last edited: Feb 29, 2020
Oh, that's correct, but where should the perceived difference come from? As I mentioned already the top 16bit are identical, there's no higher resolution within the 0dB to -96dB range. Last edited: Feb 29, 2020
Give it 10 years and there'll be. I can even predict the commercials: "The retro-vintage digital warmth-mojo-frequency-punisher-satuflower effect you all know and love after hearing it in your favorite songs with your smartphones over the years. But we didn't stop at that. In addition to the original primal effect we added an extra range. So if you turn on advance mode and turn the shit out of the only 3D-holo-knob you'll be able to convert an entire song to a f*cking sine wave. How cool is that? Shock your friends and professional colleagues alike. Because at Digital Obsession we care only about the highest quality plugins." I told you not to spar again with professional fighters titz Very true! I stand corrected. Didn't remember that.
Yes. In-memory. This is a vague statement - the noise floor will not be lowered unless in the case of lossy as I said above. Anyway, 32fp is enough to perfectly & accurately store 16int & 24int. (No SRC & volume adjustments as above). The nuances are VERY important because if you read something and don't remember it fully, your understanding may be distorted. As in this case. Last edited: Mar 1, 2020
To be clear, I agree with this. Without advanced math and computers to leverage math and other abilities of the human mind, much of what we have accomplished would not be. I read Stephon Alexander's "The Jazz of Physics" and remember how he was admonished by his professors to "shut up and calculate!" So much calculation. And this is good, because some good will come from this, but I also remember what Tesla said, “Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ” In the case of today's audio world, it would seem that the theories and tools in place are sufficient to serve the audio industry well. As far as distinguishing a hi res file from a 16/44 file, I am not saying this is feasible with just any file. I think that some material lends itself better to careful comparison to draw out the differences. EDITED to add: when poking fun at the math geek, I was being a bit cheeky. Last edited: Mar 6, 2020
Tesla also said about Edison trial and error method: "Just a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety percent of his labor.” Tesla used theory in his systematic approach while Edison favored trial and error. Not to say that Edison was not brilliant of his own, even without math. Last edited: Mar 6, 2020
