I don't know about that. It seems to me that the nation that people are the most loyal to is the almighty dollar. *yes*
Also don't forget that companies receive incentive beyond just monetary in nature, they also get access to classified information such as exploits, attacks (and how to prevent them) and other data that can help them protect their networks and better do their job.

 

Its not just the government.

Yes, Obama is completely out of control and regularly gives the finger to everyone by betting on the fact that he can get away with whatever he wants - not only because people simply don't care and don't pay attention, or how truly unwise and unintelligent most people are (He has always been a master of mobilizing the mass of "useful idiots". He knows this and uses it to his advantage) - but It's Apple. Facebook. Google. And all the others that are involved. They're giving it away because they're being paid by him. And they're getting away with it too because the useful idiots are completely focused on the government - "never mind what's in my left hand! "

This is the price you pay for either not voting, or being such a disgraceful waste of excrement that you wasted your vote on him a second time around. If you did you should truly be ashamed of yourself. This is how regimes begin. When an apathetic mass of demoralized and valueless people meet the uneducated you get the Weimar Republic; and this is how Hitler took power.

At any rate, I highly suggest you learn as much as you can about Benghazi. Hell, it doesn't even matter where you get your information from because even NBC reported the youtube video Obama was responsible for. You can even construct your own timeline of events based on any outfit's reports.

After you do that, I then highly suggest you take a look around at outfits like "Anonymous". And, knowing what you know now, let it finally wash over you... Look around.. Breathe in the air. And finally know how maddeningly stupid everyone around you is. They're like little bugs. You now understand why bad guys become bad guys in movies

Seriously though... I don't think most people understand how frightening the Benghazi scandal is. Just exactly what was his agenda? What was he going to try to do if his story stuck? Monitor the internet?

..Oh wait

 

Oh let me guess...

You tried to save us all by voting for Romney, right?

smh in utter fucking disgust.

Everyone blabbering on about this president or that president, or this party, or that party, how evil one or the other is, how this wouldn't be happening had you had only voted for the other puppet...

Please, politely, get your head out of your asses.

Nothing more than different wings on the same bird of prey.

 

Thanks for the helpful link Gulliver! Much appreciated. Hopefully some people will show up here that can share some riseup.net email account invitations. Given the recent news I think its really time to lose the gmail accounts. There should be no faith and trust given to any of these big corporate enterprises offering "free" products to us. There's a price to be paid for all of it.

 

Kaspersky is not just a businessman
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/kaspersky-indy/
http://rt.com/news/kaspersky-most-dangerous-people-606/
money? Kremlin can pay 10times more easily)

what about private information: it's not the same when your info is stealing from FB-server and from your Personal Computer, last thing isn't nice

 

All these efforts to stay off the grid won't be effective in the longrun. Using Linux will still make your vulnerable. Don't you think the government has already thought about it? They can write software to scan the next and inject code based on OS. Because linux lets do you what you want, an attacker can write even more sophisticated tracking software that can track you multiple ways (mac address, IP, HDD serial,etc). Just strive to do the right thing.

 

I think it goes further than that. A major problem with something like this is that it prevents people from speaking up. With spying like this going on, if you get into a situation where you must 'speak truth to power', you better hope you never visited a porno site that "power" can now tell the world about. Now all they need to do is go rummaging back through their data trove to find whatever it may be that will shut you up. And there's always something that will shut someone up if you can dig enough. In part that's what this does for the government. It provides a limitless dossier on all of us. Absent the ability to "speak up", the government can continue to broaden its' power, since they've cut the balls off of those that might try to do something about it -- before they've even begun.

This is where there is a remarkable danger to people like you and me.

 

That won't matter any longer. We are coming into an age where "doing the right thing" will get you labeled a terrorist and traitor and locked away in a secret prison for the remainder of your life. Just look at what the majority of the US govt is calling Edward Snowden right now.

Remember...

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act"

 

I'd like to share this excellent article entitled Why ‘I Have Nothing to Hide’ Is the Wrong Way to Think About Surveillance I've been saying the same thing for years and it really sums up my thoughts on the subject. I've no doubt that after reading it you will agree with me. *yes*

Love that Orwell quote Sp4zz, one of my favorites.

 

Thanks, one of mine too! And really pertinent these days, imo.

Excellent article btw. I have been voicing the same reasoning for ages. It makes perfect sense to me, but to others, I dunno, sometimes I just feel like the whole world was dropped on their heads as babies. lol

 

Remember in Zoolander where everyone is so impressed with Derek's look but it's really just the same one he's always been doing and Mugatu is the only one to see it. He says: "is everyone taking crazy pills, it's the same look." That's what I feel like pretty much all the time.

Common sense is not so common.
-Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique (1764)

 

For those who really want to change (delay really) what's going on, you need to work for congress or run for a similar office. Otherwise your efforts will be dwarfed. I'm also a believer in prophecy. These times are part of a system that must play out, so al you can do is delay or speed up the process. Humans in general are under both negative and positive influences outside are species...but I just took it too far. Will stop now.

 

Maybe it's inevitable...maybe not. Sit and do nothing and you'll get the same return on your investment. All I can say is I refuse to live in a world without hope, you can make up your own mind.

 

If there is any fight, its to get in the positions to change these laws, because none of them are voted for. We could qualify ourselves (or our kids) to serve in the positions that regulate our society. Hackers and coders can make an effort to secure data, but its a volatile effort on either end of security, which leaves one constantly fighting. Unless you're wealthy, you don't have time to do this and pay your bills. This is not just a USA matter, its a global effort to which many secretly contribute to the "invasion" of privacy. Remember the internet was not made as an open source project. It was a joint military/government effort at the Pentagon.

 

I can't believe that after all these revelations there are still people saying: "Don't be paranoid".
Wake up and pull your head out of the sand, ffs.

You don't need to be paranoid to realise that you are being tracked.
But I would even say: "Now you need to be more paranoid than ever."

Just a few weeks before, if some people would have told about the things we know now, most would have called it a conspiracy theory.
Well it's not, it's reality - and I guess what we know so far is only the "tip of the iceberg".

 

Here is more food for thought for the "don't be paranoid"-people:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa

We live in nice "democracies", don't we...

Playing moral authority and pointing our fingers at "rogue states"... how pathetic.

 

my dad makes me nervous because he wont relent in his pursuit of calling the govt accountable for its many transgressions. We are already on a NSA watchlist for environmental terrorists, but he seems to be even more confrontational since the whole PRISM thing exploded.

He's a great role model, if all americans where like him the revolution would have been started and ended years ago, but hes so old and sick now, another jail stint for protesting will probably kill him...




He just has watched this county moprh into a shadow of what it once was (he's 68 years old)