What's your philosophy regarding " Music theory?"

Discussion in 'Education' started by MMJ2017, Dec 10, 2019.

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Is Music theory ( how music works) worth learning in your opinion?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    5.7%
  3. Possibly

    9.8%
  4. Whatchoo mean? ( No such thing as how music works ) Foo.

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  1. I know. I'm really sorry for wasting your time. Especially when you, nor anybody gives a rats about what I say. And to think you had to write such a lengthy rebuttal when nobody even cares what I think. And I'm really very sorry for boring you with my defensive stance. Although I'm not sure what that is.
    Your mate,
    Crisis.
     
  2. Trurl

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    If Stravinsky had had access to this thread Rite Of Spring would have turned out WAY better.
     
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    He did have access to it (the concepts being discussed)that's what he used have you heard it and seen the way it's put together ?
    Lol

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1468-2249.2007.00250.x

    He wrote understanding the possibilities in several contexts from tonal to polytonal to atonal .
    He wrote deliberate excersising free will.
    He never picked random notes .
    He had a clear artistic vision before he began composing .
    When you hear something it's because he did it on purpose
    ( He didn't write ignorant of music theory )
    He wrote with a great deal of knowledge and intent.
     
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    Oh, you say that but he clearly didn't have your insight and methods of really clearly understanding every possible permutation of every chord and every possibility. And being able to process it all in a simpler more complete format. I just think he could have done better. It's kind of you to recognize what he accomplished though with the inferior tools of his time though. Especially since what he was doing was considered a pretty radical leap forward in terms of harmony in classical music. Some were pretty sure he was absolutely mangling the established rules of the day but luckily we have hindsight.
     
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    I think he did have all that because he demonstrates clearly that he had it. Right in his music he is showing a type of rare wisdom and understanding . Your sarcasm is shortsighted .
    Just because I am here on a text thread sharing information based on the consideration of this forum medium . It's a very imaginative jump for you to have no other place to go than saying I think a figure like him should have lived now to be a member of audiosex to look at text information .
    You've lost sight of the context .
    You can put all the words in my mouth all you want to.
    I'm going to be working on music and sharing information to those that it might help .
    Your imaginings are not too high up on my list of priorities.
    Just because I'm sharing information , that could help a wider demographic and logistics in this location .
    It's a quote a jump to make assumptions like I think
    Stravinsky needed to use my threads !?
    That's funny. Do you go to YouTube education videos and say the same thing?
    Say a video where someone is explaining how to start c corp or s corp and what tax forms there are,
    To comment to them.
    " Too bad Rockefeller didn't get to watch you videos series he could have doubled his wealth right?"
    It's funny.
     
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  6. sir jack spratsky

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    oh dear...im afraid my ignore button is getting a real workout today......listen trurl...really listen...and not just to the sound of your own voice
     
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    Eh, this just happens to be where I'm hanging out these days and it's not disappointing so far :wink:
     
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  8. Keep it clean! We don't want to know how frequently you're whacking your button. It's common knowledge you're in love with MMJ2017 but to what degree he excites you is something I'd rather not know.
     
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    Sir jack spratsky could you please add me to your ignore list too.
     
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    the pleasure is all mine sir
     
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    well thats cleared the air somewhat mmj...on with the real work
     
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  13. He's lucky to have you as his bodyguard. You two are so close, it's like you're his doppelganger. Bruce Wayne to his Batman.
     
  14. Everything has its place. Prioritizing one above the other is foolhardy, just as is dismissing the validity of any component that makes up the whole. Music is to be enjoyed. Robotize it and it is no longer human.
     
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    Well I think of theory as being extra colours on an artists palette who would rather have less than more?Then again all hues are made from primary colours and maybe the joy is in the mixing?
     
  16. He would never have even started it. He'd be so busy reading about how to improve it, he'd have forgotten what it was he was going to write.
     
  17. I haven't said much in relation to this topic. It's of absolutely no importance what I think, but for the sake of actually stating something related to the above mentioned subject, I will say this.
    If you have a gift for making a melody (and it can reside in your head and you can just hum it) and it's the catchiest damned melody, then knowing about theory isn't going to make that melody any catchier.
     
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  18. I haven't said much in relation to this topic. It's of absolutely no importance what I think, but for the sake of actually stating something related to the above mentioned topic, I will say this.
    If you have a gift for making a melody (and it can reside in your head and you can just hum it) and it's the catchiest damned melody, then knowing about theory isn't going to make that melody any catchier.
     
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    Say it again crisis:wink:oh wait you already did!:wink:
     
  20. For example, let's assume that the simple, almost childish melody from his 9th Symphony popped into his head one morning while he was eating his Cornflakes. He was German so they were Kornenflaken. It was his innate genius that created that melody, not his understanding of the complexities of orchestration. He didn't reject the basic three chord structure of this part because it lacked a theoretical complex structure.
     
  21. Hey! At least I only repeat myself twice. I only repeat myself twice. I only repeat myself twice.
     
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