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  1. Feridan

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    The Wild Swans - Revolutionary Spirit (1982)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdrLarbWEMY
     
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    Front Line Assembly


    Between 1985–1986, Bill Leeb supported Skinny Puppy under the name Wilhelm Schroeder. As an early friend of the band he contributed bass synth and backing vocals for several tracks while also supporting their 1985 tour. Leeb reflects on this period, "Skinny Puppy was a good starting point for me, but there was definitely no way for me to get my ideas across."[1] His experiences working with Skinny Puppy gave him some insight in the industry and helped shape his ideas for his own personal career.



    most of my favorite FLA was in the 90's but since we are talking about the 80's- we'll stick to the earlier stuff-


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhmuunOnpJo


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7QR6m1w_fY
     
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    KMFDM


    KMFDM was officially founded in Paris, France, on February 29, 1984, as a performance art project between Sascha Konietzko and German painter and multimedia artist Udo Sturm at the opening of an exhibition of young European artists at the Grand Palais. The first show consisted of Sturm playing an ARP 2600 synthesizer, Konietzko playing vacuum cleaners and bass guitars with their amplifiers spread throughout the building, and four Polish coal miners (whom Konietzko had met at a bordello) pounding on the foundations of the Grand Palais.

    KMFDM is an initialism for the nonsensical and grammatically incorrect German phrase Kein Mehrheit Für Die Mitleid, which literally translates as "no majority for the pity", but is typically given the loose translation of "no pity for the majority".

    One of my favorite bands, and tehy arent afraid to have fun and not take themselves too personally

    i've seen them live several times, including way back in the day (1989–90 int eh "The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste" tour opening for Ministry

    good times

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45u_Lwmd3cI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JDl9l9DaeA
     
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    MY LIFE WITH THE THRILL KILL KULT


    They only had one album released in the 80's (1988 to be exact) but they were a new breed of cool in my book- part of the devil rock cool psychobilly vibe that white zombie would later perfect

    they really influenced me like ministry/revolting cocks with their heavy use of creative and oftentimes humorous samples of movies and cool stuff from pop culture


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbo50DniOis

    and this song wasnt released in the 80's but dammit if its not my favorite TKK song and it still gets me pumped up, i used to play this when i had this goth girl in high school, and uh, well, you get the idea. it brought out the animal in her heh heh - it was on "The Crow" soundtrack ( which also featured Nine Inch Nails who covered Joy Division's "Dead Souls")

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTB9DFlzny0
     
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    NON aka Boyd Rice


    Ex-head of the church of satan, friend of Charles Manson, mentor of Marilyn Manson, descendant of Jesus Christ, social darwinist, neo-pagan, founder of noise core, electronic pioneer and alleged crypto-fascist; Boyd Rice's CV is as impressive as it is controversial.

    Since the mid 70's he has produced some of the most challenging and original recorded music in history. The sheer emotion, untamed structure and raw, uncompromising sounds are made all the more intriguing by the accompaniment of fascistic imagery and occultist aesthetics.

    NON is perhaps his most famous music project. several albums are of noise, with guitar drones and tape loops creating a cacophony of repetitive sounds.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlkzf3EwXgA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx5X_-znMDs
     
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    Great picks frito! FLA was still finding their footing in the 80s and they hadn't really developed as artists yet. Their name was actually chosen because they always envisioned the band as a meeting of the minds which I found really cool. By the 90s they were layering every instrument in the track creating a huge wall of sound and their mastery of synthesis is legend. KMFDM is one of the few acts that isn't a big fan of sequencing. They prefer to play everything live which is obviously a million times harder to get right. They're music isn't too serious but I still like it. I think it's cool you got a chance to see them live. MLWTTKK is a great band to see live as well. They actually had two albums in the 80s but many don't know about the other one entitled Green Darkness Volume 1. Sometimes I can't believe I know about it considering how old I was when it came out. Rob Zombie has some good songs but I always felt like MLWTTKK was way cooler. To me Rob is just too much of a hick and his tracks always sounded more "mainstream industrial". NON is awesome too, props for the interview. Let's just close with everyone imagining me saying nice nice in my Borat voice. :wink:
     
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    her vagine hang like sleeve of wizard.

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    You've Got Foetus on Your Breath - What Have You Been Doing
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk0jAtdXFko

    Foetus Ueber Frisco - Sick Minutes
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsa6Ue47Zgc
     
  9. Rolma

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    Got depressed for a while!Sublime not beauty ! :wink:
     
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    Lizzy Mercier Descloux works wonder against depression:

    Rosa Yemen - Larousse baron bic
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IFHB2KxBoo
    almost 80s (from 1978). Damn perfect song.

    Lets follow it with a video about Croissants, because well.... Croissants are nice:

    Croissants by Pierre-Dominique Cécillon for Larousse Cuisine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x69jR0BrgNE
     
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    Lizzy mercier descloux - Wawa
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl5qHIDnLUY
    from the New York Noise compilation. Wawa also appears on Press Color.

    Lizzy Mercier Descloux - Matinée d'ivresse - Morning High
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKDEUh4wins
    From Lizzy's Press Color album. A reading of Rimbaud. English voice is by Patty Smith. It's from the extended version of Press Color, which collects some of her early Rosa Yemen work and other goodies. Not on the original release.

    If you ever see the 18-track-version of Press Color, grab it immediately.
     
  12. Rolma

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    Rimbaud a bit at the odds with beauty. (A Season in Hell).

    One evening, I sat Beauty in my lap.
    – And I found her bitter.
    – And I cursed her.

    But for blasphemy or obscenity Lautréamont.

    Quite good recipe but it is missing the cold:
    My dough raises in the fridge an overnight (8hrs)
    Oddly I follow an Austrian recipe reckoning that all the ingredients should be cold before proceed with the folds,
    in btw folds- back to the fridge.
    The blade of the knife should be cold too!
    As a work surface better marble than wood or melamine too warm and pored!

    For tasteful cakes Austro-Hungarian cookery with all that poppy seed fillings for baked yeast dough, summer red plum strudel or
    decadent cakes growing taller by assembling layers of berries, chocolate and whipped cream.
    (dramatic but too far away from music and a bit covering the page of the Proustian evocation while changing borders)

    Lizzy Mercier Descloux - Matinée d'ivresse - Morning High…fantastic

    I´ve never heard about these ppl !
    And the Giacometti-like bg very appropriate too!

    The references I´ve got from that scene, mostly come from reading Greil Marcus,
    more concretely:
    Lipstick Traces: A Secret History of the 20th Century
    Don´t worry it´s very unlikely I´ll find a physical copy of anything. and what to do with it?


    All very inspiring, especially for the track I´m into, a blurry emulation of guitars and bg noise with no more than a couple of chords.I couldn´t fit more
     
  13. Feridan

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    To be correct, Morning High is from 1995. She and Patty Smith recorded it for Laswell's Hashishins project. It's on The End of Law.

    She brought some pretty radical ideas to the New York loft she shared with Patty Smith and Michel Esteban. She had attended for a while a very reputable art school in Paris (Académie des Beaux-Arts). She liked Malevitch and Rimbeau. I'm sure she was well informed about the likes of Isabelle Eberhardt (Lizzy was a nomad all her life) and a host of other beautiful and interesting radicals. The name chosen for her first project was a nod toward Rosa Rosa Luxemburg and the South of Yemen (where amongst others some German Red Army Faction members had travelled to receive training in Guerilla warfare). It was almost a year after the events of what later became known as the 'German autumn' or Deutscher Herbst. It was the height of German left-wing terrorism. I wonder how many of her American listeners realized that, but then again Soho and Lower East Side was not exactly like the rest of America. Can you image a scene like that in today's America? She would be arrested at the airport and turned back.

    She's never played guitar either, she bought a Fender Jazzmaster (always auspicious) in New York and taught herself. I wish she's stayed a bit longer with that minimalist No Wave style, but she quickly moved on to disco/funk stuff and then later on to being a pioneer of World Music with her African inspired work. Perhaps she became a bit tired with all that bleakness of the late 70s / early 80s and wanted some sunshine.

    I never tried that cold approach to baking with yeast, but it sounds very professional. Decadent cakes for the world.
     
  14. Rolma

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    @ Catalyst
    For Joy Division I really like Passover (closer). I use it, abuse it when drunk and i become
    necrophilic
    From pornography (the cure)figured head==> not sleeping very well and the vision of hell
    And to say that to be clean again, it´s unlikely sounds right when damned, specially when pointing out that decency might not be enough
     
  15. Rolma

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    Maybe the profile might help when gravity kills http://audioz.info/user/andman290/
    I mean the horns grow up in pairs.Croissants too, so muslims and The Men Who Stare at Goats had a day .
    Not very good refering like that (> I apologize)
    This is the stress of the end of the workin´ week
    C´mon 4 hours more of work !
     
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    Happy Friday Rolma!!!


    and hilarious bieber picture, i needed a good laff today, thanks!!


    (btw i understood what you meant, no worries!)


    :)
     
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    Not on 80's topic but since i heard his name mentioned above - Just had to say:


    Bill Laswell-


    genius? auteur? alien?


    this guy = great music



    "Laswell's pet concept is 'collision music' which involves bringing together musicians from wildly divergent but complementary spheres and seeing what comes out." The credo of one record label run by Laswell, and which typifies much of his work, is "Nothing Is True, Everything Is Permitted."



    whether he's actually making it ( Massacre, Painkiller, Praxis, Material, The Golden Palominos, Ashes, Last Exit, Massacre, Soup, Tabla Beat Science, Time Zone)


    or producing it

    Ginger Baker
    Eraldo Bernocchi
    Peter Brötzmann
    Buckethead
    William S. Burroughs
    Bootsy Collins
    Aïyb Dieng
    DJ Disk
    Anton Fier
    Fred Frith
    Gigi
    Grand Mixer DXT
    Herbie Hancock
    Mick Harris
    Jonas Hellborg
    Zakir Hussain
    Tetsu Inoue
    Ronald Shannon Jackson
    Toshinori Kondo
    John Lydon
    Bryan "Brain" Mantia
    Robert Musso
    White Zombie
    Pete Namlook
    Iggy Pop
    Pharoah Sanders
    Sonny Sharrock
    Swans
    Nicky Skopelitis
    Sly and Robbie
    James Blood Ulmer
    Jah Wobble
    Bernie Worrell
    John Zorn



    his career is what i want mine to be someday





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    ok, back to the 80's
     
  18. Rolma

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    :wink: that day take me on

    By the way very refreshing posts mistah!
     
  19. Feridan

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    But then you would have to live with this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xj4xGiXfW0

    Awful, just awful.

    I like Laswell's Orient & Dub flavored stuff the best. With Material it's a bit hit and miss.

    Let's listen to some early Praxis?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOnQEO1FC7A
     
  20. Rolma

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    The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters,Goya (a very romantic quote )

    I´m agreed romanticism is not about l´amour courtoise, is a reaction in front the historical edge of the industrial era. The individual developing class awareness in fight for rights and self-promotion, science over belief while classicism can´t fit the paradigm.

    Opening the doors to the sublime, to the unconscious, Art raises against the materialism unveiling that cruel thing of the human soul,
    so devastating and yet so melancholic.

    I guess that the 80s were a reaction against materialism, against the prospects of a comforted live of ownership, consumerism, professionalism, carrier ladder and family. On a way a system sold as the only civilized and civilizing option. Something that bothers me even if I´m not from that generation.
    I suppose that ` that underground ´ made its day by showing some aspects of the feared new barbarism (yet ultramodernism) of a relaxed moral on drugs, sex and anti- system notions. But again by exploiting taboos and using them things start to get too trivialized, fashion - like new speak state of things.


    Time to time I return to this thread because there is a lot for getting inspired
    Thanks mates :mates:
     
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