Making a hydrophone - Risks for the portable recorder ?

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  1. j.cnnr

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    Hi!
    I'm doing a (DIY) Hydrophone, because i need to record some sounds underwater, and my idea is to try with an cheap electret condenser microphone (that i already have) totally waterproofed.

    But my question is: In a case of not having waterproofed well, (and having activated the Phantom power), could a short circuit occur that could damage my portable recorder (Zoom H6) or the humidity only would damage the microphone?
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    Thanks.
     
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    Yes, I know that website and many others , i will do my best to isolate perfectly the microphone, using waterproofing materials such as thermoretractile plastic, silicone, etc ...
    But i also want to anticipate the risks, and need to know if my Zoom, technically could have some risk in case the humidity can short-circuit inside

    In other words, the electric current that travels through the XLR cable, from the microphone to the recorder, could ruin it if the microphone gets wet?

    Thanks.
     
  5. Satai

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    An old trick is to buy condoms and put the mic into that, rubber band wire end tight. If you buy the lubed type, that's your own fault.
     
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    I´ve used double protection just for sure :wink:
     
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    I used two piezos in a sealed (pun) and dampened can. It worked out pretty well. That removes the possibility to damage the recorder (or the electro-condensers).
     
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    Interesting project @j.cnnr

    Let´s see some pics and tell us about your experiences when done.
     
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    Condoms, balloons, are other "security layers" in wich i'm thinking, really only need to have the microphone submerged for an approximate time of 10 minutes, then i don't need more underwater sounds for a while.
     
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    Yes, i have seen how to made that way, introducing the mic into a sealed container with oil.
    First i will try it with the electret that already have, and if the result does not convince me, i will try with contact-piezo mics.

    If i can not make sure i do not put the Zoom H6 at risk, then I'll use an Olympus Ls 5 recorder, which has a microphone jack input, and a sensitivity boost feature, which is similar to activating the Phantom Power......as soon as i take the tests and the recordings, i will expand this thread with pics and audio examples.
     
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    you can short the wires of the mic input to the zoom, and it won't hurt anything. Three wires, cross any way you want. will make noise, but won't hurt anything.
     
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    A pack of homebrew audiosex hydrophone samples made with condoms and latex gloves would be just what the doctor ordered. Counting on you, brave jcnnr. Even gonna click the "watch thread" thing and await eagerly.
     
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