The role of the moderators

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  1. phloopy

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    Spot on @farao :like:
     
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  2. phloopy

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    Exactly @peterA :like:
     
  3. twoheart

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    I agree mostly.
    But there is not anything like THE troll.

    e.g. given Foster, I believe we partly made him a troll by not taking him seriously. He asked questions like a child and posted songs that seemed to be made by a child. Perhaps he was one? Or handicapped? I don't know. But we ruled him and spoke to him with a quite pretentious attitude.
    And after a while he got a troll out of his own right.

    What I want to say is, most of the time one isn't really a troll from the beginning but he's made one by the audience (and himself). We see this in real life as well. If you had a bad start you better stay away from the crowd you started bad with.

    Another type of troll is someone who has quite well developed social skills but in a bad manner. He (and less likely she) just wants to disturb, harm or damage. This one definitely knows *what buttons to press' to make a thread go south. You won't even notice he's trolling until it's too late.

    So, no, I don't think it's done with ignoring. The mods need to overlook the forum to avoid especially this kind of troll. And of course the day-to-day arguments without a specialised troll :)
    Most of the time the mods do a good job I think. I don't know another forum of this size being this "peaceful". What we the users see is only a little percentage of what they do in the background.
     
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  4. you're on page 1, i'm on page 3, sadly we are not in the same page
     
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  5. phloopy

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    Wellcome here: Do you have something interresting to add?

    If not: please leave!
     
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  6. farao

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    Agreed. But if trolls over and over succeed in derailing threads which topics actually are legit, should they be allowed what they want, having the topic closed? At the expense of the thread starter who has done nothing wrong?
     
  7. wasgedn

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    foster was no 24/7 troll....but the ppl was trolling 24/7 in his threads..
    you right but also wrong...the majority of forum users are read only....i tell you its not a good idea to let troll content be stand legit...
    this is complex but again..most ppl cant understand what a troll is ...wtf and yes we all did troll...but are we a second hydro..no
    ..that was a troll and not foster...
    again stay out of threads you not respect...its easy..otherwise you a troll...i thought you all want keep stress level for mods down..
    use ignore list...dont participate in threads you not respect or what evers...you get me very well

    bout adressing names...how you want not respond to troll and otherwise report him..oh shit..thats stasi methods..wtf :deep_facepalm:

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    and btw stasi was on whole another level..after cw the us did steal again...stasi scientists,schmoks and methods
     
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    :bow:
    also a definition of trolling is missing in them rules...
     
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    you right but thats also said easy...
    try out to put so much work and love as the pirate in posts and threads and then get trolled for dumb...

    this is retoric or at least not adressed to olymoon :cheers:
     
  10. twoheart

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    Your're right.
    After a time everything he said was suspected to be bullshit even when it wasn't.
    Some people made it a profession to f*k around with him, fully detached from facts.

    But 20/7 he was what we call a "Nervensäge" here.

    True. Best invention ever.
    But I wish it would also work for threads.

    Of course.
    But if everyone starts report everything he would call trolling, we'll get a bunch of "Blockwarts" (should be a borrowed word in englisch like German Angst or verboten). So report function is reserved for insults in my opinion, and NOT to use admins as a weapon in conflicts.
     
  11. Mykal

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    My view is that if the thread gets off topic or turns into a pissing contest then the topic should be closed, Best thing is to ignore the trolls, stay on topic and move on. @shawnsdada proves my point. Nothing he said about @The Pirate has a damn thing to do with the original topic. Instead he used it as a platform to insult another member
     
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  12. shawnsdada

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    It was a direct response to what he was posting about. His thread that was closed. I didn't attack him at all. Just called out what he's trying to do.
     
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    two wrongs do not make a right, stay on topic
     
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  14. farao

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    You cannot seriously mean that this legit topic I created and devoted lots of thought and time to should be closed if shawnsdada and pirate (just as an example pirate nothing against you) will start a pissing contest in this topic. I mean... really? What point of yours does that prove? It rather exemplifies the problem I am talking about.
     
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    You (@farao) seriously need to learn how to read and interpret. My reply is on point. It's all good.

    I'm moving on from your thread now, because I believe now this thread isn't named correctly.

    Is this thread about Mods roles? Or Foster? Or the real topic..."Trolls"?

    If it isn't the latter, it has become that now.

    Time to play some Golf. Have a nice weekend everybody!
     
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  16. farao

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    Actually, your reply does not address the problem I have outlined at all. No worries though. I hope you have a nice time on the links.
     
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  17. The Pirate

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    I, once again, have to agree with what you are saying. One area that needs to be revised in order to avoid this type of conflict is the "Ignore" option. If I have member X on my ignored list, that member should be prohibited by the rules to quote me, mention me or reply to my posts directly or indirectly, and vice-versa. As it is implemented now, the ignore option is a joke. You place members on your ignore list and they take a screen shot of what you wrote, and start replying to it as a pretext to insult you and bait you into responding.
     
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  18. Mykal

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    never said this topic should be closed nor did I say it was not an legit one but take a look at what it has become. a lot of the responses have fucking nothing to do with your O.P. but the moment a thread becomes a sounding board for certain people to go off topic, then In my opinion is should be closed as it is a waste. The problem is not your topic but the people that ruined it. back when I was a mod here I would simply take away the ability to post but then again I am an asshole
     
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  19. farao

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    You are completely ignoring the problem. If more people troll in a topic it should be closed??? How is that a solution. Can’t you see that such a policy is what is encouraging trolls to go off topic and insult people in threads started by members they dislike.
     
  20. Mykal

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    And you are not reading between the lines, I myself never closed any threads, I just simply shut the trolls ups and did my best to get the thread on topic and in context, if you have a problem with policy , I suggest you contact SAiNT and let him know how you really feel about it all.At the end of the day the Mods can only do so much with the tools and rules they have to go by
     
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