Need to re-learn everything i think i know. Help me arrange the order in which i should.

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  1. BrokenRecord

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    Long story short. Most of my knowledge come from a lot of YouTube tutorials that i saw back at 2010, Most of the tutorials back then were just half way and at the end they linked you to their website in which you pay to watch the rest. My naive self kept watching this half assed tutorials not knowing that my knowledge would be half assed in the future. I could've just searched harder, but i was too lazy. So due to some struggle I've been having I decided to re learn everything i think i know, but im still unsure of the order in which to learn these topics and what would be the best series of videos to watch.

    So here are the topics:
    Reading and playing music (piano in this case)
    Music theory
    Songwriting (RnB mostly)
    Singing with proper technique
    Relative pitch
    Drum programming (or reading drums off a sheet)
    Orchestral composition

    Sorry for my english and Thank you in advanced.
     
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  3. Foobar

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    Reading music is fairly easy and should be done in a couple of hours. I would start with that to get it out of the way. You don't need to be perfect anyway. You need the basics and when you play piano by sheet music, you can lookup more stuff to fill in the blanks on the go and will get the practice by doing it. So, just quickly go over the basics of reading music first.

    Then do a bit of piano. Some introduction lessons and some simple lessons are enough. Try this some days, maybe a week.

    As this can become pretty boring, mix in some lessons on music theory. With your knowledge about reading music and some practice in playing piano, it should blend in pretty nicely. Scales, intervals, chords etc. - you don't need to understand everything. Just go on playing piano and you will notice how it works on the fly.

    Next move on with beatmaking. I would suggest to learn some basics about some of the soft synths you may use first. Then just make some beats with what you learned already and record your playing on the keyboard. Then learn some things about other plugins you need, like compression, filter, limiter etc. Learn it, when you need it. Learning by doing, mixed in with lessons when you need them.

    Mix in drum programming. Learn it when you need it.

    Continue with more music theory while you are making beats. This may take quite some time. Couple of months, I guess. Mix making music with learning about music. You will get better in everything, including knowing what you still need to learn next.

    I don't sing and I never learned anything about relative pitch except from what I picked up while making music, so I don't know about that, maybe someone else could help you with his wisdom.

    Leave orchestral for the end, as it will bring everything together and is a lot harder to learn. You need to go back to the music theory and learn about melodies, orchestration, arranging etc. - but at this time, you will already know what you don't know and can find the right path to learn it yourself.
     
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    http://openmusictheory.com/contents.html
    Find a vocal teacher... or some kind of paid tutorial series on singing.
    Ear training - there are free sites online. You can make your own exercises in any daw.
    Songwriting (RnB mostly) - buy a fakebook and study the scores. You won't find a real tutorial book on this- it's basically pentatonic scales in melody, some extended chords in harmony and melismatic ornamentation.
    Drum programming - https://www.groove3.com/tutorials/drumming-explained
    Orchestral composition - you can learn instrumentation and orchestration - see Adler, but orchestral composition can't be learned - there are no limitations or real rules aside from instrument used, with sample libraries you have even less issues with range or intonation as long as you like the impurity of tuned sample; better study scores, if you want to imitate some kind of style.
     
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    Thank you for the answers everyone, you've been very helpful :). I think that should be enough to get me started, along with some other useful sources I've found on the forum.:cheers:
     
  6. Blue

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    It's because you are the young generation.
    you're not forced to watch asshole narcissic guys on YT channels,you will find a lot more reading some articles or reviews around the web,or asking some questions on forums.

    YT is cool for music,nothing else.
     
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  8. PrettyPurdie

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    Buy Books(http://www.cambridge-mt.com/MixingSecrets.htm), stay away from the Internet, find comfort in forgetting everything around you,
    at one point sooner or later the music will speak to you, to your soul. dont hesitate ...let it come....and maybe buy an old MPC60 just to find the Fun in Music again
     
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  9. Amirious

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    I highly suggest to prioritize your goals and build a foundation for your knowledge.
    Also if your focus right now is to learn enough music theory, basic harmony, drum programming to write down your ideas and want to learn notation and more advanced stuff in the future, I'd recommend this guy's courses. Just don't get lost in Udemy! it's essentially a tutorial black market full of bullshit and lazy people but there are some exceptions like the one I mentioned.
     
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    so wrong man...so wrong.....brain you have to use anyways....yt is so fckn important....it can alter elections and bring so much inormation from the sources..not only political..also you can build everything on youre own cause yt tuts ...
    also sport stuff...
     
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  12. G String

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    I'd start with controlling your bladder and bowel. And maybe start with squished-up food, then rusks with milk, then on their own. Learn to count, the alphabet, then some simple sentences and a bit of basic arithmetic. A few simple toys to improve physical co-ordination and you'll be well on your way...........
     
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    i'm pretty sure that's a bit too far back
     
  14. Blue

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    Are you kidding???
    My brain is lucid.
    The YT censorship is not "fuckin' important" for me.YT is at the service of politicians first(like Facebook),so I don't expect YT will help citizens to see the truth.
    You can watch on YT what censorship wants you to watch.
    But we're not here for talking about political.

    There are some cool tutorials on YT,but a big part of bullshit too.
     
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    lmao...no not all....unbelievable....and btw i meant in common a human need brain to sort it out...i actualy meant need to use it...
    yt ...brings more truth then all the mainstream ever...
    sure when i only watch shit and fun videos there is another thing..

    i could flood you with valuable yt vids from all aspects of life...did a lot of construction and elektro construction with yt...yt shows me war zones un colored...bla bla *1000
    yt vids are not facebook lol...channels get closed video deleted..
    you must use good source ..but all source are good to sort it out...
    this is russian...more truth then all tv news together anyways you must keep in mind who is making it..not cause of russian..cause you need to look from all aspects and dont take any corners position..
    RT FRANCE
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...search_sort=relevance&search_category=0&page=
     
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    the guy above with theory yt video is more proper then paid tuts..i can sit in his class
     
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    I know this channel my dear friend,since a long time.
    Hey,do you think I only watch pussycats or totorials ??...
     
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    You guys can grab the book from here:
    http://uploadboy.me/itu4wrw9fbdm/Jazz Audio_ Book.rar.html

    It needs updating since some information has been added.
     
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    @MMJ2017 has so much knowledge on jazz theory but I guess he doesn't have the talent for organization. :unsure:
    So it's interesting to see someone has started to keep all his content in a properly organized format. I can only imagine how much effort you must have put into this. hats off.
     
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    first you got to drop it...then organize...noon is dropping a organized book at first...
    i think that is a perfect parting of the work which is involved
     
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