Wow,this plugin seems to be usefull!I was searchig something like this since a long time,thanks you so much for the info!

It should be usefull when the kick has lost its impact when you have changed its original pitch,for example.I'll try that.

 

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Sounds very useful for contemporary stuff.

 

Does somebody know any plugin that could shift the overall phase of a signal,like Flux:: EVO IN,but for free?

https://www.flux.audio/project/evo-in/

 

PhaseBug (BetaBugs) is free, although 32bit IIRC (I think I jBridged mine to 64bit):
http://www.pcjv.de/vst-plugins/betabugs-plugins/

For "drive" you have Softube SaturationKnob which is also free.

 

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Thanks @Baxter,you are an encyclopedia,you know everything when talking about producing,you are an invaluable member on AS!

For drive or saturation I have lot of plugins.

And about the phase "shifter",do you know any others plugins?Or PhaseBug is the only one to do that?

 

Lots of good tips already, so here's something a little unconventional (at least it was for me): Limiters on kick and bass are the shit (for dance-y stuff at least...).
For a long time I've been struggling to get these super deep techno kicks that have a shitload of reverb, yet still sound super dry and "knocking" (think Mike Dehnert/OTON stuff). Just pick a sample, set up a reverb send (EQ to taste + remove some width) and send them through the same bus. On that bus, you're gonna have a limiter that really goes to town. Obviously depends on the sound, so you gotta figure exact settings out on your own, but I'm feeling good with short releases and around 4-10dB gain reduction. Also, you don't want to set the output to -0.1, but rather a level that leaves you with some headroom to work with. L2 is great for this, but pretty much any limiter will work.
Now, this is of course never going to work with anything that requires some sort of dynamic low-end, but if you want a kick that goes boom all the way for your next industrial-esque techno banger, this is the ticket.

EDIT: Almost forgot: Happy new year!

 

I think that's what PHA-979 (by voxengo) does. https://www.voxengo.com/product/pha979/
Also not a phase shifter but a phase rotator (pretty unique in the vst world, it was included in some hw for radio), is available at AirWindows (http://www.airwindows.com/phasenudge-vst/)

 

Thanks @Talmi! Yes you're right,Flux Evo In is more a phase rotator,they call it like that on the Flux' site.

 

-know the key of kick for adjust to your track
can use an audio spectrum analyzer (Span) or graphic eq with analyzer (Pro Q2)
to find the key, you can increase +12 semitones the kick and fine tune. Then lower again.

-adjust length/duration

-always check mono (phase problems) and make it mono 20-200 hz (It depends on your kick ands bass)
voxengo pha979, voxengo msed, brainworx bx_control V2,....

processing:
-filter/eq
-transient / compression
-distortion / saturation / clipper
-what ever you want...
-filter/eq

techno/ambient/groove effects?
you can send the kick to a bus/effect channel or apply all effect as insert in the same channel.

-filter/eq
-delay
-reverb
-what ever you want...
-filter/eq
-sidechain (xfer lfotools)

You can use the original + effect channels separately or routing the original + effect channel into a bus channel and Smack Up apply new processes and compression.

It depends on the day I use samples, use some plugin or both at the same time.

Sonic.Academy.KICK.2
Cledland.Audio.BigKick.v1.7.4
Native Instruments TRK-01

I always use a waveform scope (stillwell Schope) to see and analyze / adjust the application of the transient / compression and the problems of phases.

 

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Already answered, but another option too
https://www.forward-audio.de/sampledelay/

 

Transient designer? Just askin'.

 

As long as one knows how to deal with...

 

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You can add transient with:
Layers, EQ, Compressors, modifying the volume with ADSR (any sampler can), transient designer plugins,...
Can redraw volume with xfer lfotools, but need to be in sync or trigered.

 

thx ZUK....
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one of that great threads here which should get sticky'ed

 

Sample delay: can be useful to correct phases.

Voxengo Sound Delay
can work with L/R and M/S,

PSP MixSync2

 

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I don't feel there's such thing as punchy kick. Snare/midrangey percussive sounds can be turned punchy,but not kick. Thats too deep. Its more 60 to 80hz boost and saturation what u can do there that deep. Little compression is better there. So yeah, a heavy kickdrum comes from 60hz/4khz boost and, distortion.. but as usual, I'm kidding...

Kick drums, especially from drum machines, are samples so , they dont need treatment. Just saturate the kick . Never mix a kick soloed. Neve eq @ 60 hz and saturation until it stands out. Thank me later

 

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I usually start by observing the target carefully, contemplating the best possible way to make the most impact, without hurting my foot.

[it does make some sense, actually, when you think about it in a mixing sense]

In many genres, the most important thing is to get the balance right between the kick and the bass. One should always have less low end to sound right. It depends on what you find more important in a particular song. Just my 2p.

oh, I'm not a sidechain believer, but sc can help with that, a lot, too.

 

808 kick is analog osc only hh and claps etc. are samples...i really dont want bitch around i really appreciate all input..
how you process a synth kick....?

i guees you kick have low end , not like the bass less tok tok kicks many artist use today which leave all band open for bassline