Bass enhancement - what it is and why it's a great alternative to eqing your low end.

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  1. Denise.Audio

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    Great thanks, I was always wondering what those plugins do and why not just eq'ing. I'm using that Plugin Alliance bxBass-something... quite often.
     
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    would be interesting to have bass enhancer which follows the actually key, maybe as midi input or automation
     
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    They are very useful plugins, a lot more accurate to taking control of the low end. Especially as the low end is mixed a lot higher than other frequencies, you want to be sure it's controlled well
     
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    That is a good idea!
     
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    NO Competition got that feature yet :)
     
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    they are busy trying to capture that 80s warmness and color
     
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    is your bass enhancer zero latenzy ? If so keepo it like this or offer a zero latency mode
     
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    I'd say it is a vital Idea, and needed. I currently run with BX_Sub Synth. Which does follow key, I think for me you would need to add the key follow for me to even consider this
     
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    you are sure it follows key ? The interface shows a know where you can set a frequency ? Does that follow as well ?
     
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    Well, I had some issues with a mix and tried this out, am happy with the results! Simple to execute and effective.
     
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    Super! We're pleased you like it.
     
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    And once again :
    MaxxBass and similar bass enhancers are NOT sub bass generators at all.

    They are the OPPOSITE : sub bass generators generate lower harmonics, whereas bass enhancers generate higher harmonics, to "fool" the human brain.
    Both are called "bass enhancer" by some ppl.

    MaxxBass is the opposite of Lowender or LoAir.
     
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    Absolutely! Thanks for the added clarity.
     
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    LoAir, Clarisonix, Lowender, etc.
    How would they generate sub-harmonics if not by following the notes/key/specific dominant frequencies which defines the notes, of the sound material that you use those plugs on?

    Even on RenBass by Waves, I dial in the frequency value that represents the bass note of the first chord from the chord progression of a particular song, in a lower octave. That will always give a particular nice impact to your intro/chorus/verse's first bassy bits that your listener gets to initially grab with their ear in the very first seconds of each arrangement passage.
     
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    Yeah they generate harmonics related to the incoming pitch BUT around a static set center frequency ;) eg RBass 55 Hz would relate to the note A.

    Try it yourself and compare played notes vs sampled notes with adjusted center frequency.
    It is different.

    Just feed Rbass with a since, the harmonics follow across a small span , but not if you want to jump one octave up.
     
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    After reading this thread, im a bit confused. Maybe i should re-read, but can some1 clear up for me, which attempt to prefer, or when to use which. I used to work with RBass, now i try Lowender, which i like. This Denise Plugin doesnt add lower freq to source material, just adds on harmonics, Lowender do add lower freq to source material thru generating harmonics, rbass adds higher freq to source material thru a sub synth.
    Hope this summary is correct , nevertheless im still confused? Lol
     
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    That would be ofc the task for a normal exciter/enhancer.

    If the source hasn't a high level fundamental, I'd use a sub synth, if it has one an enhancer/exciter is probably the better solution. But this also depends on the goal. I sometimes try both versions and judge by ear which sounds best. A freq analyzer can be of great help here too.
     
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    Thx for clearing that up for me. Appreciated
     
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