'Hate is humanity, love a construct, peace is delusionary.' [sic: 'peace is delusionary' should read 'peace is delusional']

hmm... you propose a dialectic (love -- hate) to address this thing you call humanity, yet, you also contend that one discrete element is a construct (love) [btw. both love and hate are merely constructs]. the opposing argument can be discarded from the equation as you freely admit it does not exist. so, you say your (proposed) monad (hate [also a construct]) explains the collective abstracted entity. no need to complicate things. a simple:

'hate is humanity'

would suffice, be more succinct and more economical (imo. more correct, though not totally correct(see above)) -- though nevertheless be any more meaningful.

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on a more serious note, this kind of behavior does not present any new or useful (or interesting?) information so it only raises questions:

are you trolling?

is this a sophomoric attempt at edgy attention getting or is this soft propaganda/rhetoric for a certain popular contemporary internet culture?

 

Well, you've successfully answered your own question by contradicting yourself. Congrats. The Bulls clearly know the smell of lions..big or small..and probably understand that if they don't pose a threat now, they soon will. Or that Mum and Dad are just behind that tree, so a show of force might just deter the parents from coming near. So they kill the baby lions out of self preservation. This is not hate. Hate is predetermined and is an emotion that gathers momentum over time. I don't think hate could be spontaneous. If someone you don't know hits you, you don't suddenly hate them. You probably hit back for any number of reasons, to stop them hitting you again or for revenge. This is not hate. Actually, hate is not the worst emotion. Indifference, a complete state of total apathy is the worst possible emotion. You see, to hate someone you have to think about them, talk about them, and weigh up all the reasons you hate them. When you simply DON'T CARE at all about someone, you can't even be bothered to think about them, this has to be far worse.

 

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I didn't answer my own question.. and I don't believe I posed one except rhetorically
I answered your fallacious concept..but educate me since you are talking down from your "higher plane"


and there's no such thing as an "enlightened" cow... some people think "cows" are sacred.. but then
that is an arbitrary social construct... and they're missing out on some damn good pan seared ribeyes...


your clenched fist..and formerly gorilla face ...prove your concept wrong as well
you obviously acknowledge raw power and aggression.. look in the mirror monkey man....

Bhagavad Gita, "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

 

me ne frego

 

Again, there are causes, which produce effects. You are not seeing the full breadth of even the effects, let alone the causes because you believe scientific theories to be fact. Everything that man believes in, he fights ferociously for to preserve. There's a lot that I would like to add but I would tire of what would ensue. Truth is not an easy thing to say, it is in fact the hardest and to grasp it fully would require you to completely annihilate your beliefs. It is frustrating to deal with people feeling the same bitterness and anger or with people who just don't care about anything except trying to take from everyone else, on a daily basis. Most frustrating and vexing is feeling the same things in my self and it tires me to stomp the ever encompassing shit out of it every day. What I do know with absolute certainty is that none of those feelings you display here so proudly will never make things better for you or anyone else.

 

some good books not????

 

Aw damn, you've come over all confrontational an' all. But I still like your funny avatar. I forgive you brother. My avatar is all about 'People Power' - I think most people recognise that.

 

Like Maxine Waters people power..ah well I will let you alone man, you've waded into some deep shit..
and you don't want to recognize it... cheers

 

It's easy to only see the half picture, and to defend this blindness as being clear-sightedness ; the useful feature of our personalities, or egos, is self conservation, survival ; with it inevitably by nature coexists fear, fear of disappearing, fear of dissolving, fear of dying.

Ego has the useful self conservation function which can lead him to some imbalances : defending opinions as if it was some kind of inner life or death issue, before even trying to understand the "opponent", which leads to more closure and blindness, which is not good for the human being, but the ego/personnality can be satisfied with this poor nonsense behaviour resulting from self preservation lopsided unnecessary hypertrophy imbalance. Fabricated conflicts which have no useful real reasons for being, but they arrive every day.

Domesticating our own ego, returning it to the equilibrium position, is a work of consciousness. There are some useful tools for this, here and there. Funny thing is that it is correlated, and can be seen if knowing where to look, with the body (more precisely : with some parts of the back, Atlas C1 cervical vertebra and lower back positionnings).

Next step is to make him understand that he is absolutely not at the origin position of the being (which is a thing he tends to believe and defend, in perfect usual blindness). This one is more difficult, it goes against all our (false) education, against almost all our deeply installed acquired influences. Freedom has its price. Before these two steps, no one is free but more likely kind of robotic. If the ego can be lead to accept this kind of "dissolving", then the real magic can begin. Absolutely simple, but needs some ripening/maturation ; ego is terrified to die and to realize he's not at the origin position of the being, he wants this position more than anything. Feel sorry for the egos, but don't let them remain impostors...

Our falling has come when we have wanted to be at the origin of ourselves ; we became pitiful blind impostors.

Look : it's when we are in a total failure situation, when we are absolutely broken as egos having fought and done all they thought they could, when we accept that we can do nothing and that there is no solution for us, that then often some kinds of magics occur. This one is the hard way.

 

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Well, so long as you replace the word "God" with "nature', and "soul" with "effect into the future", I can generally agree.
But you wouldn't do that, I suppose....

 

this thread is so edgy. can i be your friend?

 

People want peace in this reality! We all possess violent tendencies and would fight to save our place in this reality.
Are we descended from apes? I reckon that we have Ape DNA within our construct but I believe that we have been bred from Apes and something higher within (or without) this terrestrial domain.
We may never know where we came from but we are definitely of a higher intelligence from anything else on this planet.
The people on this plane that make war are of a different breed from the rest of us and we are their livestock! They have the money and power to keep us right where they want us! This is only my interpretation and I may be way off but none of us really know do we?
I believe that people in general are peaceful and want to live in peace and then we are ruled by Warlords who have a whole different perspective as to how this World should be run!!!

 

There is one aspect by which to judge all this: Results.
So, how are we doing, as far as amount of suffering on average compared to the past.
Well things keep improving, and that fact indicates that it is natural for us to improve, and only time will tell if it's a fluke.
One thing is for sure: Whatever humans do IS natural...for HUMANS.

 

There seems to be a lot of evidence suggesting several (at least) alien civilizations much more advanced then ours, also well documented cases of government cover-up (and some recent disclosures on the topic also). I happen believe in the very real God who prabably operates way outside the scope of understanding for what our purpose is here.

You seem like an exceptionally gifted writer, a possible reincarnate of the great Hunter Thompson even. I think I disagree slightly with some of your points but you would still have my vote for governer. When it comes to religion, true believers would understand that the moral code is setup for human's benefit, I would be interested to hear if STD's affect the animal kingdom as much as in promiscuous humans. Some religions like the one mentioned might repress more without emphasizing the benefits which is unfortunate.


Overall some really awesome writing skills demonstrated in this thread, I really hope to see more thoughts articulated as well regarding music production too! Now please ignore when you see me return to my usual jokes about choking myself for pleasure.

 

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Nobody would argue those things are not human characteristics but you simply refuse to recognise anything else as real - so it's little wonder you reach your one-sided conclusion. "Man is good because he is bad". Hmmm. Not really a full explanation is it?

And even then, you suggest man looking after his own (for instance, through nationalism) is "aggression, possession, prejudice" etc - omitting entirely the fact that the purpose is to look after himself **and others** like him/her. You don't recognise the "looking after" part at all.

We **are** apes. Humans and Chimps shared a common ancestor circa 6 million years ago. We have never been Chimps, we are not descended from Chimps - we just share a common ancestor. Humans are apes.

Errr......there's absolutely zero evidence for it. :D

 

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No it shouldn't. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/delusionary
delusionary in British
adjective
another word for delusional

 

I've done not much more than state my rebuttal to another thread in my own topic.
I've displayed no feelings here whatsoever. I've given valid reasons, historical evidence and even science to make my case, but shown no 'feelings' in doing so.
If you're of the opinion I have, then you have to question your comprehension skills before you try and correct me.

 

Then you are the sort of person I'm not really interested in debating with.

 

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I didn't see any evidence of ET. UFO's are merely "unidentified" - not "identified as alien craft".

If that's your opening gambit I'm not expecting much from the rest. [I won't be convinced - there's no need of any more, honestly] You can believe what you like - don't let me stop you. ;)