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The real sportsman :D

There´s english subtitles available

 

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if he didn't win every game he played with that mullet, i'm dissapointed!
that MULLET is glorious!

around 5:20 in i couldn't contain myself, something else went through my mind there..

 

I've trained in boxing (and more recently a bit of kickboxing) in various capacities since I was 18... so nearly 10 years now.

I don't do competition, or even sparring anymore really, but it's good exercise and I like knowing that if I needed to I could work most dudes in a stand up fight.

It's a great way to make cardio feel like less of a chore too. Yesterday I went running for the first time since the weather got cold. Did 4 miles no problem and I've been doing nothing but kickboxing and weight lifting since autumn. Plus I'm 200lbs

If you're going to train one martial art for getting in shape, I'd say boxing/kickboxing is a pretty good choice. Lots of good cardio work, strength, balance, explosiveness.

If you're going to train one martial art for actual self defense Brazillian jiu jitsu is probably your best bet. Go watch the early UFC days when dudes with one discipline were coming from around the world to compete against each other and figure out what works. Royce Gracie, the Brazillian Jiu Jitsu representative, was mopping up guys with 80 pounds on him and he won basically every event he competed in

Wrestling is another great one, but I don't know where you'd learn wrestling if you're not in high school or something lol

 

I believe real life is opposite of what you are saying here .
the demonstration videos and learning with partner is all about focusing on the movements you make how the body and momentum and posture all works. what ever way they come at you then use your total knowledge of everything as a entire library of how the body and momentum itself works .

it is not "rules"

instead it is showing you a specific element to understand about the human body.
a punch video demonstration is teaching you about what is significant , using your body weight to punch flailing your arms around is couple pounds of force, but swinging a 200 lp force punch at a pressure point will end the fight.


"the average dude just flails and pulls your hair pull you through 8 tables of dining people leaving absolute destruction in it's path or something until he feels manly enough or whatever."

IF you let him do that.
IF you have training you would have let 47 opportunities to take him out pass by for that situation you described to happen.
that is up to you if you would let him go that far with the nonsense. I would rotate 30 degrees to the side and take him out with 1 pressure point and leave. ( or 150 other possibilities with 1 or 2 moves based on the way his body was moving and with what force and angles the situation is.)


The poses are for you to watch and understand the way the body works, where the power is coming from, how to protect yourself it has nothing to do with any goofy way they are standing or moving


"for example these krav maga positions are developed as a counter ONLY if your opponent actually knows how to wield the knife, and mostly in the military all these knife techniques are basically the same all over the world because it's about protecting yourself whilst making efficient blows to your opponent, that's why the counters are also the same because the moves are anticipated. this is military training not something you bring down to the streets. and hopefully that won't ever occur to you or anyone else."

TRUE IF the person is walking on his hands and holding the knife with his feet and coming at you ,you would need a different take down, but why?.....
why does any take down work in any situation?
the geometry of the body, how momentum works, how we bend how create balance and force, where weak spots are located where target zones are how to dodge and block based on center of gravity THAT is the point of all the videos and training NOT specific scenes and pictures of stances and locations and what the other person is doing on the screen.

The point of a specific training scene is to understand the concept itself that is demonstrated , why it works as it does
Why for instance moving a small amount to move a gun 1 inch away where they cannot hurt you in 1 second . what is being taught tin the demonstration is the concept of whatever situation it is and stance and movement and center of gravity they have you adapt to the principles themselves.

the point is , to understand everything is about then you can adapt the knowledge to whatever is happening in real life. ( when real danger is present)
But i would also say that actually fighting should only be last resort.

 

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I was a boxing bag a couple of times, but it didn't make me any healthier.

Boxing is not for musicians.

 

hey man, this ain't the Circle of 5ths.

 

He´s the guy behind My Summer Car ;)

http://store.steampowered.com/app/516750/My_Summer_Car/

And also this jewel :D

 

They did you dirty my friend!

 

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Mostly, though

, so in a knife fight with a platoon of dudes in yoga pants, all bets are off.

I find that pleading/begging for mercy is another winning gambit. Redirection (e.g. kicking the the little girl I'm hiding behind, to show the ruffian how safe & enjoyable it is) is also surprisingly effective

 

Oh jesus I just saw all the Aikido/Krav Maga/Steven Seagal videos.

Please, for the love of god, do not get into a street fight and try to replicate what you saw Steven Seagal doing or some shit you saw in a Krav Maga or Aikido video. If you're interested in self defense and you're not going to go to a gym and learn something like Jiu Jitsu, wrestling, boxing, muay thai, etc. You're MUCH better off getting a brother/friend to practice with and trying to learn from some Brazillian Jiu Jitsu instructional videos. Do those demonstrations with Steven Seagal throwing guys in skirts -- and I use the term throwing loosely, because really what's happening is he's touching them and they're throwing themselves to the ground -- do those not look suspiciously choreographed to you? Like, turn on a UFC fight:

These are the most elite fighters in the world, who are fighting in the most skillful and talent-stacked division in the best MMA organization in the world. The taller guy above is the current interim lightweight champion and the shorter guy is the former lightweight champion. Their primary disciplines are: wrestling, brazillian jiu jitsu, boxing, kickboxing and muay thai.

there are also some very elite fighters whose main martial arts base is karate, taekwon do, sambo, or judo. But for the purpose of actually fighting, most of these are adapted into what is essentially a style of wrestling and kickboxing

Not trying to piss on anyone's parade here, but as long as the conversation has sort of shifted from fitness to self defense: if you're going to try to learn something to keep yourself safe, please be aware of what are the preferred disciplines that actually work for people who make their living in avoiding getting their own ass kicked.

 

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Be mindful of your fingers. I studied martial arts for many years and at one point, I got into what's called Chinese Boxing ... an amazing martial art.

Part of the curriculum was Chin Na; a set of very effective joint lock techniques. It's fine if your opponent isn't too aggressive. I would always tell my partner that I played guitar and wasn't interested in giving it up because I got my fingers twisted.

Most people respected that but there were always a few clowns (mostly young people who got a feeling of accomplishment hurting older people) who would go too far.

I wasn't into martial arts to kick anyone's ass, I just loved the art and it's great exercise, too. To me, the martial arts were similar to music.

I never studied it but, as Cav Emp said, Brazillian jiu jitsu is incredible and probably more suited to self-defense.

Just be careful.

 

The concept of "to be healthier" is a bit abstract (ie. ambiguous) on its nature and meaning. Nonetheless, to me, it does portray a person's actions taking possession maintaining good shape to his physical and mental well-being.

One could argue the nature, or the actual means of doing boxing or martial arts. Nonetheless, by doing so, more or less (if not all), to me, it does portray the concept of "to be healthier" (at some sort) (thus, I'd go for why not).

 

I'm not here to judge if those "traditional" self-defense moves are useful in real life or not, because thankfully I haven't had the need to use them yet. The moves look coreographed because they are. And you know why? Because If you don't "participate" in the coreography, it means you'll probably have something broken. So you better fly.

First thing we are taught when practicing self defense is to "let go". Let the other person do the drill and to not oppose any resistance. If you do, then it's when it really hurts.

Honestly, I think the UFC did much more harm than good. Everyone has lost the interest for the "art" aspect in favour of "ways to kill an opponent". Everything that is not MMA is not useful and people just want to learn how to hurt another human being. The philosophy, values and spiritual aspects of martial arts are completely fading out. The kind of people that goes into my gym is very different (Traditional TaeKwon-Do Vs. Kickboxing). The cultural levels are also very different, the overall behaviour... Kickboxing guys just want to learn how to fight, no bullshit.

A pattern or "kata" may not be useful at all in real life, but it boosts your psychomotor skills and body control. It's also a very impressive thing to watch if done properly:

 

@Cav Emp, as usual that Seagal video has been grossly mislabelled: "destroys the Russian Aikido team". Please, bitches.

Video actually shows an aged, fat, out of practice Seagal demonstrating certain basic techniques and tactics from his personal brand of Aikido called Tenshin Aikido. He's a movie star so nobody gives a shit that he's fat or out of practice. The crowd cheers, that's all that matters. Meanwhile Tenshin Aikido is argueably one of the most street-applicable styles of Aikido where they do train at full speed, and against fast punch/kick combos. In the average Aikido MacDojo you would see nothing of the sort and in general be involved in a bunch of useless choreography. It's, unfortunately, Aikido-flavour aerobics. Serious Aikido teachers who understand and teach the real thing are rare and hard to find, since honestly almost nobody understands it to begin with even the guys who trained for years in Japan with the founder...

Of course, those guys are flying around like that when he touches them on purpose. It's not a sparring or anything, just a basics demo, they are willingly assisting him. They jump in a certain special way to save their joints the second they're in danger, as soon as Sensei applies the technique. It's standard operating procedure in any Aikido dojo, it's how these guys are able to get up safe and sound after each application and attack again. Sensei may do the technique quite forcefully but they are still unscathed, like movie stuntmen. A successful application of Aikido on the street against a guy who doesn't understand this "art of jumping just right to save your joints" does not look anything like those epic falls they're doing in the movies. It looks nasty, hard to look at. The person falls headfirst into the ground in an ugly way and then the mangled convulsions or yelping starts, they need hospitalization.

Tenshin Aikido multiple attacker exercises, it's a beautiful thing like Japanese calligraphy.

 

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See, this... I find very hard to believe. The UFC is a $4 billion business whose sole purpose is to find and promote the best fighters in the world. Among the best in the world, locking in a technique that could potentially break an arm requires a very meticulous and usually arduous grappling process that involves working yourself into a position where you can use your entire body to isolate the limb you're attacking. And even then the guys with sharp enough grappling technique can scramble out of them. It's not a as simple saying "not in MMA, therefore doesn't work," but these guys are submitting themselves to punishing and ascetic lifestyles so they can stay at the top of their craft. Many of them travel all over the world looking to learn new techniques and get practice with the best training partners. What I'm saying is they're ALWAYS looking for a way to get an edge. Don't you think if you could break someone's arm from some of those standing positions shown in the demonstrations that at least one of those fighters would have spent some time looking into it and shocked everybody by beating them with some overlooked techniques?

All this stuff like standing wrist locks, pressure points and the like... I don't doubt that they cause pain, but they're very often touted as something that seems kind of implausible to people with experience in other arts.

I apologize for the tone of my original post. It was kind of dickish toward some of those traditional styles, and I'm not here to put anyone down, but Aikido isn't doing itself any favors with those demonstrations. They invite ridicule in that they're often sold as a demonstration of the effectiveness of the art, when it's impossible to demonstrate the effectiveness of anything unless the other guy is trying to stop you. Guys running at the master one at a time with their arms outstretched, chin up and no concern for balance and then collapsing to the ground or tumbling through the air at a light touch. Meanwhile Seagal is basically standing perfectly upright and doing everything but shrugging and yawning to show how easy it is. It's highly dramatized.

That's not necessarily true. There are lots of brutes in MMA but there are just as many (and probably more) martial artists who go in with a ton of respect for their opponents and whose main focus is to test themselves against the best in the world. It's pretty rare that you see two guys walk away from a fight without obvious respect and rapport with one another afterwards. They're almost always hugging after the fight, or the winner checks on the loser to make sure he's okay. Stuff like that.

IMO, to say the UFC did more harm than good requires you to totally ignore the clarity we have received as to the viability of techniques. You could easily make an argument that martial arts has evolved more in the last 25 years than it had in the preceding 2500 years. Before this there was never an opportunity for people of all creeds and disciplines to test their systems on a large scale against those of other martial artists and discover where their discipline is strong and what it's weak against. People created lots of systems, and their students made their own systems to branch out for that, but there was never really a way for everyone to congregate and find out without a doubt what was most effective.

 

@Satai that's an interesting take on it. I'm not surprised to hear there are different styles and some are more applicable than others. The same is true of karate. Some styles of it have looked pretty ineffective when tested against other arts. Other styles of karate have produced some of the best MMA strikers and kickboxers the world has seen.

Even that video though.. I have questions. Is that a sparring session, or a demonstration? I literally only saw one example of a guy approaching the sensei with his hands raised in front of him and his feet shoulder width apart in a balanced stance. And then his first attack was a sort of sweeping "wax on/wax off" motion that allowed him to be parried and pulled off balance. Like.. what happens in Aikido if someone is bouncing in and out of striking range on the balls of their feet and throws a jab? A lead hook around the guard?

I assume there is a concept of a fighting stance in Aikido, so why are those guys all running in with their hands down or outstretched in front of them? I'm trying my best to be open minded, but I haven't seen a demonstration - much less a live action exercise - that involves an opponent who's showing any kind of grappling or striking fundamentals.

 

Respectfully, I think Hard Liquor and Drugs are a musician's best friends!

Just kidding...

 

is that the Okinawan karate ?
I watched a NHK plus one documentary on it last week - its astounding for its sheer discipline.
Wouldn't mind having a go at it( even if its just for health and discipline) , but I think my arthritis would impede me

 

Short answer:
If you are over 40 - NO
Reason: - When you are younger your bones, muscles, ligaments and tendons are more resilient with damage. The older you get the longer it takes for things to heal.
If over 40: If physical fitness and mental well being is the aim take up Tai Chi - Avoid a full contact sport if you want to play an instrument every day without possibly having weeks where you cannot because you are too busy healing.