Audio Card, budget 300$, for electronic music?

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  1. Listening_player

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    USB 3 is in no way faster then USB 2, it´s just capable of handling more channels.
     
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  2. odelay

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    If you want to spend even less, I use a Tascam US 2x2 with my laptop when I want to record something at a friend's. Around €130. You need to buy an external power adapter if you're planning to connect a phantom microphone, though. (As a plus, it's iOs compatible, and you can use it with an iPad or similar. Just get a USB camera adapter for iPad. You'll need the power adapter for that, too).
    http://tascam.com/product/us-2x2/
    Check the specs. It may suit your needs for little cash.
     
  3. Blorg

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    "Among other improvements, USB 3.0 adds the new transfer rate referred to as SuperSpeed USB (SS) that can transfer data at up to 5 Gbit/s (625 MB/s), which is about 10 times as fast as the USB 2.0 standard." --https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0
     
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  4. Listening_player

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    That doesn't interfere with what i said. It can transport more data, that's why you can use more channels with it. It does not bring a lower latency.
     
  5. TW

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    If you mean raw treansfer speed. No ... If you mean latency of drivers? Yes some are faster. But even my old baby face USB 2.0 had a better latency than a focusrite fw ... just saying ...
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  6. Blorg

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    Sure it does. You said
    Which is bullshit.
    Latency is neither here nor there.
     
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  7. midi-man

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    First I did not say USB 3. I said USB. second USB are usually shared ports not like firewire which is a dedicated port. Also if you do your research under heavy load you will find out what I am telling you is true. From what I know there are no USB 3 devices out yet ( I might be wrong on this ).
     
  8. midi-man

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    I think if it's not a shared port you would be right. From what I understand USB has more driver overhead than firewire. Also real world and running a test is different. I have heard a lot of complaints about USB audio drop out less on firewire.
     
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  11. Blorg

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    I hear a lot more about car crashes than monowheel crashes. Conclusion: monowheels are safer than cars, buy one.
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  12. midi-man

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    This looks bad ass.
     
  13. anonymouse

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    At that price range, the only think you want to worry about is drivers and features. Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 is what you want. Again, at that price range, all AD converters sound the same.
     
  14. Blorg

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    Sorta. Think bike inside of a hamster wheel/ hamster ball. Same problems, too. Accelerate/hit the brakes a bit too hard, and ...
     
  15. taskforce

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    I am sorry mate, but in actual numbers you are wrong in this. I 've read about these allegations too in gearslutz and various daw forums etc, whoever writes these ignores a few things. In simple for everybody explanation, USB generations have a lot in common. But:
    USB 2 is a shared bus connection whereas USB 3 is a "direct" connection from host comp to device. With USB 2, there are numerous and constant polling intervals between the bus and the connected device(s), and always results in a latency of at least 0.125 ms.
    USB 3 uses minimum polling (no shared bus, so no multiplexing), resulting in a minimum roundtrip latency of about 0.030 ms.
    So, although for both USB 2 & 3 the minimum latency is much lower than what is expected of even the best audio interface, as you can see, USB 3 is about 4 times faster than USB2. USB3 has lower jitter times too.
    Keep in mind these numbers are "lab" metrics and do not involve specific device drivers, which in the case of an audio card can "make or break" the user experience. Also the same card in different OS's can exhibit similar but different in actual numbers latency.
    Cheers :)
     
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  16. midi-man

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    Good to see a clear explanation. How is FIrewire compared to USB3? I know it's better than USB2.
     
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    If manufacturers like RME or Universal Audio sell USB interfaces it's because USB speed is adapted to audio production.Don't need Firewire.
    I think Firewire connection will disappear in the future.
    My soundcard is connected via USB3 and it works very very well.
    I tried to connect my soundcard on a USB2 port and it doesn't change anything in terms of performance.
     
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  19. Moogerfooger

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    I don’t know guys. OP is looking for a card that’s specifically for electronic music. Everything that has been recommended here only works with acoustic music... Good luck...
     
  20. midi-man

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    I think any card will do any kind of music.
     
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