A jazz-influenced Thread

Discussion in 'Our Music' started by Introninja, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. Blorg

    Blorg Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    356
    Likes Received:
    117
    In the same sense as dead languages are studies, yes (Church Latin, anyone?)
    As does astrology. Astrology has a pretty advanced and comprehensive theory corpus (a career in food service, anyone?).
    Inovation? Smooth jazz was the last noteworthy thing that happened to jazz, and that was back in, what, 1980s (insipid elevator music, anyone?)?
    >corpus
    >per se
    ded language is ded (Jazz, anyone?) :)
     
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2018
  2. BibouLeNoob

    BibouLeNoob Kapellmeister

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2015
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    74
    Blorg, what i said in reply #100 also stands for you.
    Jazz, as a complete musical corpus composed of theory + techniques, is very much alive.
    It lives in the hands of every skilled modern musician (ie: not you).

    You're wrong again (being wrong also seems to be a pattern of yours) when you refer to smooth jazz as the "last noteworthy thing" since smooth jazz is widely regarded as a non-innovation to begin with.

    Had you mentioned various subgenres of fusion or even neo-bop you would have been more relevant.

    But you haven't.
     
  3. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    I was always thinking musicians are the most broad-minded people on the earth. In spite of the thousands of verbal and visual examples I've posted, it seems Jazzers are the most pertinacious kinds in ignoring everything and attaching to the tested and given up ideas. Stick to them firmly and don't unhand. Good luck!:wink:
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 3, 2018
  4. Blorg

    Blorg Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    356
    Likes Received:
    117
    [​IMG]
    ...are an embarrassment best left forgotten, didn't want to rub it in. Also: happened half a century ago. Half a century, imagine?
    Was that even a thing? Did people actually listen to it? willingly? Or was it just some cold-blooded shit you played to a motherfucker before popping a cap in his ass?
    Seriously tho, at least actual IRL people listened to Smooth Jazz (I'm not laughing, honest).
    [​IMG] & Kenny G. got in the top 10. Less than 40 years ago, even! Yesterday, 'far as jazz goes:winker:
     
  5. LV4-26

    LV4-26 Guest

    Edit

    So much personal advice that it's to demotivate you to participate. Don't listen and read to all of this and if you really have trouble venturing into this project there are many tutorials on Jazz written by professionals on the sister site.

    Or search on Googled: Piano Jazz scales and chords. Just looking the chords will be useful for you.

    PianoPig Channel

     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 3, 2018
  6. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    Oh yeah, let theories embrace you,
    Completely efface and disgrace you,
    Debase your place and interlace you,
    This is what deserve you cockatoo.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 3, 2018
  7. phloopy

    phloopy Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2011
    Messages:
    3,827
    Likes Received:
    1,748
    Imho Jazz is the only real original artistic/cultural gift America (read: USA) has giving to the rest of the world in the last 100 years and more - period!
    I know a lot will disagree and that´s ok but no one will be able to change my opinion!

    Funny thing is that The United States as such doesnt seem to have much respect/reverence for this art form, actually invented in The United States, so many of their greatest jazz musicians had to go in exile in Europe for decades..... Jazz is and has always been huge in Europe.

    An example:
    When Duke Ellington died his son took over. When Mercer Ellinton had to deside where his fathers recordings (especially the never released ones) should be saved for posterity, he didn´t choose The United States but Europe.... and guess why?!?

    A country that cannot take care of the most valuable artistic expressions their country can provide have very little cultural understanding of itself and thats a pity.

    Myself and jazz:

    I love jazz! Especially bebob - modern jazz.

    I have this great feeling every time I listen to good jazz music that it doesn´t speak down to me but regard me being a thinking and skilled person - it challenges my intellect on scales, harmonies, melodies, swing, grooves and not least improvisations!

    I LOVE JAZZ - especially if it´s GOOD jazz :yes:

    That´s all.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
    • List
  8. Blorg

    Blorg Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    356
    Likes Received:
    117
    Well, there was that Rock&Roll you folks seemed to enjoy, but why quibble? Europeans have always been into our flotsam & jetsam -- the castoffs of American culture. Always about about a decade or two post freshness date, but still perfectly good. Who can blame them, amirite?
    For the same reason our toxic computer scrap used to end up getting "donated" to developing nations?
    P.S. thanks for bringing politics & national pride into a jazz thread :)
     
  9. LV4-26

    LV4-26 Guest

    You should have be a poet.

    PS: Search PG Music Jazz Piano Master Class :)
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 3, 2018
    • Like Like x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
    • List
  10. phloopy

    phloopy Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2011
    Messages:
    3,827
    Likes Received:
    1,748
    You must indeed be from USA :yes:
     
  11. Blorg

    Blorg Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    356
    Likes Received:
    117
    You know it. On the bleeding edge of teh avant garde. Modal jazz transcended chord structure. Atonal jazz shed the shackles of fixed tuning. Old news, happened more than half a century ago. This is what the next generation of Europeans will be raving about -- Atonal, Free-Time Spoken Word Jazz. Get hip, Daddy-o, don't be no square. Dig the future, dig THIS!
    [​IMG]
    Yeah baby, that some deep shit all the hep cats are groovin' to :guru:
    (since humor can't cross national boundaries: plz don't take offense, I'm joking.)
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2018
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
  12. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    I never follow in anyone's footsteps. Everything for the creation I'm fond of is inside my mind. No matter how much drooped or strong they are. Spending the whole life to learn the bootless chord structures to torture the audiences is not in my concordance. BTW, those courses are nothing except some morale boosters to believe in yourself not Jazz.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 3, 2018
  13. BibouLeNoob

    BibouLeNoob Kapellmeister

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2015
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    74
    Talented people can afford this kind of behavior.

    When all you have isn't talent but just an internet connection, you'd be well advised to follow quite a few other footsteps dude. Just sayin.
     
  14. BibouLeNoob

    BibouLeNoob Kapellmeister

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2015
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    74
    Blorg, this is not a debate.
    There are countless of musically groundbreaking alive jazz bands and artists all over the world, whether you like it or not.
    Kawasi Washington, Tigran Hamassyan, Snarky Puppy of course, you name it.

    They're all genuinely epic musicians, sought after by huge pop brands - Kendrick Lamar, Snoop Dogg, Justin Timberlake and so on, precisely because they play jazz, they're skilled, they're innovating and they're very much alive (as opposed to your deadly cancerous trolling).



     
  15. LV4-26

    LV4-26 Guest

    Typical answer from a guy who don't want to learn to read a score.
    You know I have nothing against you. So, give up! Thanks dude :yes:
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • List
  16. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    Finally someone thanked me! Me too.:bleh::mates:
     
  17. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    Every style (including Jazz varieties) of music calls for its related tools, people, attitudes, audiences, knowledge, etc. I'm not a Jazz listener, producer and appreciator. For this reason, no need to follow those gratuitous paths and hoard superfluous sidelights.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 4, 2018
  18. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    @BibouLeNoob @LV4-26 in this channel there are some professional Rap, Hip-Hop, RnB arrangements. They've been done masterfully and technically likely regarding theories and I don't think any Jazzer would be able to do the similar things with this level of staggering skillfulness. They are complicated for those genres but I don't expect you to love them (me too). Without worshiping the ground someone walks on, you can never understand, feel and follow his/her route.:bow:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/TiNoXBeatz/videos
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 5, 2018
  19. BibouLeNoob

    BibouLeNoob Kapellmeister

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2015
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    74
    @foster911 Dude, try to convince yourself to begin with, before trying to convince anyone else.

    You're posting amateurish rip-offs of cinematic musics ala Hans Zimmer or Craig Armstrong with some basic hip hop beats on top... what in the motherfing hell ya talking about ?

    Besides the fact two posts earlier you were posturing about not following other footsteps, just, what's your goddamn point ?

    Why would anyone, especially creative people, would want to do something like that ?

    Stay focused foster for fuck's sake ! FO-CU-SED
     
  20. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    I've convinced myself not to peep through the keyhole when some Jazz affairs going on.
    You didn't listen to them not because they're amateurish or professional but because you don't like those types. Maybe you don't respect them at all. I don't like them too.
    Jazzers like biblicists think all the music needs have been prescribed previously by Jazz ancestors and don't accept and recognize other experimentations as official forms of art. All I say is Jazz is just a small (very very small) subset of music (stylistically and theoretically). Jazz is not a big umbrella to place other experimentations and styles of music beneath itself. Jazz is nothing more than Jazz.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 5, 2018
Loading...
Similar Threads - jazz influenced Thread Forum Date
A jazz-influenced AudioSex Album Our Music Jan 11, 2018
Early 00s "Lounge" "Jazz Fusion"? What Elements Do I Need? how to make "that" sound Jan 21, 2024
Rudy Van Gelder Thread Only - Jazz, Studio, Equipment etc related to the topic Lounge Jul 25, 2023
Insanity Samples - New Cool Jazz not showing in K6.7 Kontakt May 18, 2023
Richie Zellon (Jazz Guitar Lessons) Education Apr 12, 2023
Loading...