http://drewdaniels.com/ProTools.html

Wow!

 

The review must be quite old!

 

Would put it in the 8 year range possibly. Was just surprised someone put it out there so strongly.
Not the only time I have seen or heard this kind of thought on Pro Tools (Digidesign or Avid).

Just not this strong.

 

Yes, the guy is speaking clear and with technical arguments.

Avid is still in this line actually. I have an Eleven Rack (bought 2nd hand cheap) can you believe that ilock software and a license are needed to use the standalone soft editor : 0 Ts Ts Ts.

An other example: M Audio was owned by Avid, and some of their cheap audio interface had bad and slow drivers, and of course the argument was that "this is cheap so this is bad" ... One week after they sold M Audio to inMusic Brands *, the driver was updated and was twice fast.

* inMusic Brands: AIR Music Technology, Akai Professional, Alesis, Alto Professional, M-Audio, MPC, Numark, and Strip Search.

 

the main hassle with Pro Tools was the hardware "dongle" thing.....
I have used Studio One and Logic long enough to get a handle on both those DAWS...... they also have significant shortcomings and a similar article can be written as to why someone wouldn't use them.....especially at the time the author wrote his article.

This my DAW is better that your DAW argument is old, played out and at this point boring.
There are many arguments for not using S1 or Logic or Ableton or Cubase etc,
It's meaningless unless you read those opinions to decide which may be right for you.... not to find out which one is "better"

 

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Reads like his beef is more with the users - bad practice and all that. The rest is boring.

 

I think his problem with Pro Tools, is the idea they being a Pro, means you have to use Pro Tools. Especially if you
want to work at the high end of the industry. And of course other issues concerning the Pro Tools products.

This attitude is slowly changing as other DAWs improve.

For me it's not this software vs that. Just that someone at the top of the industry did this, in this way.

 

yeah, I think that the Pros must use Pro Tools idea is dead....as many pros use many different DAWS now.
I would've stayed with Studio One if it wasn't for the CPU issues.....not that I'm a pro....just saying

 

it's still the industry standard

most of the time, people compose in logic or cubase then mix in PT

only electronic musicians compose or mix with live, reaper, S1 ..

 

Didn't read the article, but from my experience Avid is an absolute a**hole company. They don't just support their "cheap" hardware for the absolute minimum of time. Even the most expensive products of the line are made obsolete as they please. The other thing is the rental or subscription system. I hate it. Sometimes i want to stick with a version for a year more. It's fair to pay more when upgrading from an to the new version. But because i dropped out of subscription I have to pay 1000 Bucks to get it back. And thats practicly a gift. Some months ago they were like "well if you're not a subscriber any more, you have to buy it once more and then subscribe". That's classical Avid (and Digidesign was just the same).
So most people who spit on protools are in fact frustrated with the company behind the software.
And there is a lot that needs to be done feature wise. The file section? a joke. Without soundminer or basehead (another few hundret bucks) you just can't use it for post. Programmable macros? Assignable Keysettings? A multichannel panner (or at last 5.1)? Stock plugins beyond a channel strip and some freeware like plugins? Other DAWs get gifts like anymix with major upgrades. What does protools get with major upgrades? Hassle with the licensing, mostly.

 

PT was "the" DAW 20+ years ago, so it became a convention of the Music Industry. In an institution such as the Music Industry, conventions are adhered-to as standards. The commercial comportment of Avid in regard to Pro Tools is the result of being its being this cushily-ensconced convention in the Music Industry, in which The Pros have the funds to pay the ransom for the goods. Pro Tools is as much a "must" as a Fender or Gibson guitar or a Sennheiser or AKG microphone. That is, the markets of consumer and professional audio equipment are not only glutted; they overlap. Professional recording engineers who don't know Ableton Live are complicit in their own professional obsolescence. It does simplify and conveniently standardize the workflow to deliver a project in Pro Tools to a veteran mix engineer who's probably been using PT for years, but, you know, you don't "have to" play a Strat in order to be taken seriously as a blues-rocker. Or do you?

 

Lots of people use Reaper for audio recording...

 

Unless you're fat enough to look cool with a black LP, pretty much.

 

When was the last time Avid(Pro tools) did anything innovative? Many big studios and producers have invested so much money in PT that ditching it is not an option. Poor those producers.

 

I think changing practically the entire dev team in order to fck things up beyond fixable state, multiple times, is innovative

 

No wonder PT sucks like hell !

 

Apple in a nutshell.

'The third and most important reason to me for avoiding ProTools, is that its parent companies Digidesign and Avid, in my opinion, engage in predatory business practices and illegal restraint of trade pursuing a monopoly in production software, to the detriment of art and music, worldwide.'

 

I tested Protools : it was like a 80's software.
It was simple to go away and NEVER look back.
Industry standard ? So die along the industry...
They spend more money to push their monopoly than coding.

Example ? offline audio bouncing
Mandatory in ANY serious audio DAW.

Introduced in Protools 11 : 2013 lol
Side note : how things would have turned if Protools was named "FruityTools" ?
And Fruity Loops named "ProLoops" ?
Who would have been called "kids toy" ?

Protools is pure marketing. And it will still works... for some years.