A message from R2R from their 2017 Thanksgiving day release :

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Quote :

"HAPPY THANKSGiViNG DAY!

It's getting worse and worse every day. Now every single works are ripped
and repacked without credit and get uploaded by money makers. If forum
owners don't take any actions to those people against our policies, we regard
it as they are supporting $$$ business $$$ warez which we hate. If no one
cares, this is the last holiday release from us.


2005 : Torrent age starts.

2007 : More and more crackers, P2P groups were very active.

2010 : Forum based warez sites were being lively.

2013 : Less supplies, more requests, rapidly.

2015 : Massive leakage, appeared that Sunny aka MAGNETRiXX was selling
internal R2R releases to other guys like iNTEGRAL.

2016 : Fake crackers website is getting more popular.
More "Portable" uploads to avoid mirror link restriction.
More mirrors, more money makers.
Almost all "public" crackers left until the end of 2016.

2017 : Fake R2R website is top on the google.
More ways to avoid mirror link restriction.

2018 : What's next?


We haven't changed our attitude since the beginning.
"DO NOT MAKE MONEY WITH OUR RELEASES"
Let's see what will happen in the months."

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Ok, now we officially have a serious problem here. :-/

There is no choice but to now be mindful and proactive regarding their concerns.

Thoughts?

 

Last edited: Nov 22, 2017

i think the work R2R do is outstanding and im sure on this forum we all appreciate all the hard work involved in what they do
so a big thanks to all the R2R guys

 

We have to show respect for the hard work that r2r does

 

Without R2R we are f'kd...I really hope people can show some respect

 

I was waiting for this to see what are their opinion about latest No installer uploads. Now, it is evident that the moderators should take all the repacked stuff down. Personally, I have never and will not ever download thoes.

@SAiNT @Olymoon ...

 

Last edited: Nov 23, 2017

Nothing we can do, its all down to what Saint does.

 

@R2R if i earned a nickel every time some forum hobo called me a cubase fanboy, id be a rich man today.
Dont mind the haters, we love you.

 

R2R work needs to be protected on our sister site. We need to give R2R a safe environment and to ditch all the fake releases and to ban all the uploaders who rip-off the R2R's work!

 

Too much hate from my point of view. I see coming another "we don't release" shortly followed by "R2R (third person of course) decided to release...".
You can't avoid these things. And even less judge scene history saying all bad things happened during your group hegemony. There's people making money with AIR stuff also.

There is also people selling audio & other warez (of course without the buyers knowledge, so scam) hand to hand (DVDs, portable HDD) using sites amazon-like but of course without reputation/feedback features.

Don't get me wrong, I love all good releases from every group. And they've every right to put what they want in their NFOs. Just my opinion.

 

Sunny is protected. Look at the mess he created last year during the Holidays and nothing happened to him. R2R I hope your reading this and understand the 99.9% of us are powerless to change any of the issues with your releases being repacked for profit. Trust me if we could we would all gladly make it stop.

 

How are average users in the community, that don't torrent, supposed to download new releases without supporting the "posters' " profiting?
I guess that I've never really thought about how that process works until now.

 

About the no install releases, there's a big thread about it. And some key releases like Kontakt they've no scene counterpart.

 

For sure you can't avoid it in the $$$google ranking but it can be avoided in one specific place which was also adressed in the info.
Mirrors are already locked because of $$$makers.

BS she was banned from racing their releases. So..

@bluerover Support the good posters! Not the $$$ones.

 

I'm happy to let R2R releases block my computer access to that r2r download site. I'm just saying it's impossible to avoid scams and specially DD (direct download like in AZ) mirrors.

Edited: perhaps I'm missing something with this "locked mirrors" meaning seeing @Mainzelman comment

 

Last edited: Nov 23, 2017

There are always things one can not change and I never spent much time talking about these. What do you mean by DD mirrors? Mirrors are usually locked on R2R releases.

 

Not just us but all music makers around the world even those ones flaunting that possess the legitimate bought products. They're not afraid that their hidden po.n folders discovered accidentally by their parents but feel intimidated that tons of R2R's stuff revealed inside those folders.

 

"If forum owners don't take any actions to those people against our policies, we regard
it as they are supporting $$$ business $$$ warez"

i Think this is a call to SAiNT...

First of all i want to Thank R2R, as if it weren't for them i would not be here or at this level, or this domain at all, They opened this world for me, as a poor musician, and when i say poor musician i mean it, i'm not just using the card that everybody is using now a days, but it is true... anyway as the comments above me said, we are powerless, we Don't want R2R to go, and we almost can't do anything, against what is going on, but SAiNT might, and i'm calling you asking you to take actions...

i might suggest changing the way to access the scene, making it more tight...

that being said, This Message is to,

R2R, why would you judge the majority of what the minority is doing ? most of us users, we are just consumers, we don't make money off of your work or anything, you are punishing us for what is a small pourcentage are doing, if there is anything you would like us to do we would do it, but i'm pretty sure it wont almost change anything ??

anyway the only thing i ask from you is to be fair, please don't close this door on us, as a big majority can't even buy the cheapest stuff out there, i consider AZ, as my second parents, and all Releases are like gifts, that i'm unable to buy by myself...

not sure this will make any sense to you but it does for me, and sorry if my English is not that good.

have a good day.

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my comment on AZ.

 

Interesting.
The best way to fight the piracy is let repakers do the dirty job.

 

Last edited: Nov 23, 2017

Really sad story. R2R are well intended and if everyone was following their motto, I'm pretty sure most software and plugins makers would argue that this hack culture is beneficial in the big picture. Unfortunately, this is obviously not happening...