Nah it's not that easy, you have to also predict where, what, when and why. Only God knows 1000yrs from now. If I could see that far I would be the richest man alive. I don't know what it will do for you but here's a few:


http://www.bible.ca/b-prophecy-60.htm

 

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Any concepts or words which have been formed in the past through the interplay between the world and ourselves are not really sharply defined with respect to their meaning: that is to say, we do not know exactly how far they will help us in finding our way in the world. We often know that they can be applied to a wide range of inner or outer experience, but we practically never know precisely the limits of their applicability. This is true even of the simplest and most general concepts like "existence" and "space and time". Therefore, it will never be possible by pure reason to arrive at some absolute truth.
The concepts may, however, be sharply defined with regard to their connections... a group of connected concepts may be applicable to a wide field of experience and will help us to find our way in this field. But the limits of the applicability will in general not be known, at least not completely...
-Werner Heisenberg
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg

 

"And differiencate fictions in each thoughts you have is kind of an impossible challenge."

for this sentence to be true, means some of the time it is acceptable to have fiction controlling your thoughts that lead to behavior and actions? how you do things? doe sthat add up to you that one MUST have fiction to act on? to decide the way to do things we must have a false concepts floating in sentences in our mind?





"I don't know even if you believe in science, if you don't believe in god religion or whatever, why and where this goes. I doubt it's possible, but even if it were it doesn't solve the problem of a presence of afterlife."

you are not being clear enough for me to get exactly what you mean.
science is testing and probing reality to see what reality is like. it is like talking to a person to see what they are like because you are not in THEIR head WITH them. is it possible to know a person better than a stranger? better than a fictional character you make up?



"but even if it were it doesn't solve the problem of a presence of afterlife."

I dont get what you exactly mean when you say this i dont get what information you want me to take the sentence as. ( i could take this to mean many things, which one is the way YOU meant it?)

if a person has ANY belief afterlife or not , because when it comes to that belief that dont differentiate between fiction and not fiction, that belief is identical to believing in fictional proposition. for example. if is say a proposition " spider-man is real and the creator of all morality" when I evaluate it , I cannot find a way to connect it to the entire body of knowledge of reality( only regarding that which is demonstrable)





"The fact that all your thoughts are non fiction can't possibly make life better,"

explain situation that it does not so i can understand what this sentence is trying to say or mean.

say a person has 50 percent fictional thoughts ,things that are not true.( they THINK is how reality works) , it effects the way they do everything how they communicate, all their methodology , every action their whole life.

so you are saying life COULDNT be ANY better IF a person existed where that was NOT happening to them?



"make it full of sense,"
that means intelligible or meaning your thoughts match with the way it actually is in reality. so yes by definition your life makes more sense when you have thoughts that match the way things really work.



"
or make the loss of loved ones feel less painfull."


yes, it helps considerably because you can see the reality of it, sometimes people blame themselves for no reason through fiction in thoughts , they might turn to drugs to numb the pain and care fictional thoughts that a drug addiction is not possible that they have control , I can go on listing millions of reasons and situations thinking in accurate way is better when dealing with death of loved ones, why can't YOU?






How is one thing related to the other ?"

which thing related to which other? I need more specifics.

 

yes, it makes sense perfectly, in the exact context of a large book where it is talking about something specific,\

what you think he just walked up to a newspaper journalist said that quote by itself and ran away?

cherry picking is dishonest.


here is simple example.

The police officer walked in the drug house , a crack addicted woman barely alive pulls a shotgun aims it at his face.
the police officer raises his handgun and shoots the young woman point blank right between the eyes.


now lets see what happens if we cherry pick ready?




the police officer raises his handgun and shoots the young woman point blank right between the eyes.

 

you said it perfectly, Einstein AS a physicist was NOT interested in merely an illusion

 

I really think it is a great discussion we could have. But you have to enlarge its scope then, which was kind of my point, the challenge formulated as it is now brings its own answer.
From Wittgenstein to Russel, to Shultz, to M.Weber, Foulcault, or Derrida and Bourdieu and so many. Reality has many aspects that can be questioned.
Personaly I remain a structuralist. So in a way I deeply believe in the invisible. But not in god, nor in religion.
You see my problem with the formulation.

 

so explain what is INCOMPATIBLE! jeez


"You see my problem with the formulation."

no, I absolutely do NOT! break it right down for me! show me every WORD that is wrong the whole thing!

demonstrate that the scope is too narrow

explain and show what is wrong with the formulation


you must know I am not in there in your mind with you?

 

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here is the proposition formulated where I make the assumptions that people are inside my head with me ( that they automatically know what i mean by each word.)

FICTION AIN'T REALITY>

done.

 

this is what I ask myself about souls

how can my mind talk about souls in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?

replace the word with anything

how can my mind talk about shoes in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about stars in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about evil spirits in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about computers in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about science in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about unicorns in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about trolls in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about cars in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about electronics in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about fairy's in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?
how can my mind talk about square-circles in such a way where, I can make an accurate distinction between IT being fiction and being reality?





does that help at all?


what is happening in the moment i'm starting from my mind, and I am trying to match my thinking to the way things actually are so I dont make a mistake and so im not completely wrong about the way things are outside of me.

 

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If you have read the book and Heisenberg states otherwise

a) bring the relevant quotes which prove the cherry picking
b) sue the site(s) that made that images

Is that clear my friend?

 

If by clear you mean saying the words " states otherwise"
than that is clear.


you just took a sentence out of context and posed it in isolation!
it is identical to the cherry picking example I gave you!


so what you are saying is reading that quote is identical to reading the entire book?

 

Is that quote cherry picking as well?
Sorry for asking but I saw no comment from you yet.
I repost it.
"
Any concepts or words which have been formed in the past through the interplay between the world and ourselves are not really sharply defined with respect to their meaning: that is to say, we do not know exactly how far they will help us in finding our way in the world. We often know that they can be applied to a wide range of inner or outer experience, but we practically never know precisely the limits of their applicability. This is true even of the simplest and most general concepts like "existence" and "space and time". Therefore, it will never be possible by pure reason to arrive at some absolute truth.
The concepts may, however, be sharply defined with regard to their connections... a group of connected concepts may be applicable to a wide field of experience and will help us to find our way in this field. But the limits of the applicability will in general not be known, at least not completely...
-Werner Heisenberg
"

 

its great i love it i live by it!

 

I didn't take any sentence and I didn't post it in isolation!
I just posted two images and a quote from THIRD PARTY sites.

If you cannot distinguish between those two I'm afraid I cannot help you...

What I'm saying is bring the quotes of the relevant book where Heisenberg states otherwise and go sue those THIRD PARTY sites...

 

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Nice to hear that!!!!

Since you live by this one from Heisenberg
"Therefore, it will never be possible by pure reason to arrive at some absolute truth."

go study this one from Jesus...

John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

I might have said it perfectly but you didn't understand neither me (minor issue, don't bother) nor Einstein (major issue, do care)...

 

Vegan because I assure y'all that the flying spaghetti monster and his almighty cheesiness will rise again someday. Anyone who objects needs to go bathe in the holy sauce.
"Monster grant me the spaghetti to eat the things I cannot change, the sauce to change the things I can, and the noodles to know the difference... R'Amen!"

 

when I say reality

I mean it as a shortcut to " the way things actually work" as opposed to a fabrication or fictional or false thought, imagination which does not match the way things actually work.

like the computer repair guy that goes to fix someones laptop and they think because they got a pop up the CIA is "hacking" adn stealing "all their files" the repair guy says " that is not the way it actually works" and explains what popups are.

 

".."Therefore, it will never be possible by pure reason to arrive at some absolute truth.""

is THIS what you THINK your quote talked about?

besides that there is no such thing as absolute truth.""