I thought it would be fun for the Christians to rip this video apart explaining why all his propositions are false I appreciate you guys talking here very much.

 

Don't go after people religions. Don't do that. Respect other people. Respect the rules of the forum. Hang to your theory and debate it but don't be hostile with videos to people who don't think like you.
That's not what your challenge was about and your topic would have been shut down if it had been.

The fact that you are unable to convince anyone shouldn't lead you to that crap.

 

Actually this question cannot be answered, is like a philosophic dialog between you and the members here, maybe they answer to your deep question, or maybe, you make a gallop of how much belief in this community is strong or not, what ever, it is a positive happening

 

Yes, I agree dont go after people religions dont do that. and dont be hostile with videos i agree fully 100 percent . ( did you read the comment with the videos? that is was put up FOR Christians to rip apart and show why it is flawed giving THEM a voice around here also sir. thank you for your well thought out comment i appreciate it sir.

 

Christians (or muslims or budhists or jews or whatever) don't have to show s..t to you. Leave them and there faith alone.
Who the heck are You ?

 

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sir i dont know what you going on about or what you think is happening I did something for THEM, ( the ones that choose it) So that they can have something to tear apart, why are you not READING the comments that go with it?
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Some moron claims he can deconstruct the whole religion in one hour, Christian love tearing this stuff apart !what is with you? why are you confusing what is happening? I have stated several times my personal belief is that I WANT souls and AFTERLIVES to be real , ( even though reality has shown what I want is false) i see believers of all sorts as my family as other people with their own perspective, please dont try to fabricate a fictional version of me in your imagination, then try to superimpose that on this thread I am the person that exists in reality, your concept of me is based on little to no information so keep it together.

 

....and the most convincing gobbeldygooker wins a free pass to a secret Scientology seminar. Congrats!

 

I've already answered your dumb question.
STICK to the original topic that YOU put forward and PROVE what YOU believe in.
Which so far you haven't done.
Don't trash other people religions, don't ask them to prove their faith.

 

I dont know what you mean and I cant know what you mean because you are not showing me examples of what you are "claiming " i have done or not done. you are living inside your imagination right now.

give examples , demonstrate what you are saying is not fiction, THIS IS the topic
I am proving the proposition is true by having you here commenting in fiction for which you have not differentiated with not fiction, you skip that step and then that thought turns into you commenting about an imaginary version of me for which you invented. if you look back through the thread this is videos all through tie ing to the topic at hand i have no clue what is happening with you at all.

 

You understand and you know.
Remove those retarded videos of yours. And go convert people on forums where idiots want to be converted to your crap. Which I guess must be getting rare these days.

 

Now it is my turn to tell you what to do.

Take a deep breath, close your eyes bring your attention to the thought or train of thoughts that is making you emotional.
ask yourself what is upsetting you? how did you phrase your thoughts that made you upset? was it framed with an enemy image? that someone is the bad guy and you are the good guy? was it framed in such a way as the bad guy deserves to be punished?
take your thoughts back to its origin and try to instead make the direct observation of what happened inside the situation , not through anyone's eyes but zooming out where you can see all the variables in that situation. now describe what actually took place.

 

Oh, and your whole imaginary world where it's my imagination that gives me a representation of what you're saying...well it's an imaginary world.
I know many psychologist because of my personal university cursus, they advice to never entertained crazy people with their madness.

 

That's all very entertaining, my cat is loving it.

 

oh, good you have came back to us, what happened that upset you like that? we can talk here.If you think I upset please describe the events to me Its pretty hard to discuss things angry i want to discuss the topic.

If you like we can talk about the aspect of me where i am an atheist against my will, I think that would help you to understand where I am coming from better, if your able to get that upset but not having important information about me to put it in context.

my situation is unusual as far as i know because i want it to be true, so inside i feel like a believer and identify with other believers, spend time with them talk with them i don't see them as different form me.
did you read my post about my father i put up earlier ? i thought that would help you understand me.
the only reason I identify as an atheist is because for years i did research and as i learned about different disciplines it filled in my gaps of knowledge which i could still believe in souls and afterlives ( even a type of god creator).
one day i woke up different, i didn't choose anything i don't want reality to be what it actually is, i want reality to include a creator god, souls, and afterlives i will give anything to have it be true, my mind was changed from learning about the way things actually work, i have these discussions with the small hope that there is a way to believe in them again BUT where i can differentiate between fiction and not fiction. and still believe.

 

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I would be very interested, and many people too for reseaches purposes, to know your trajectory, what kind of events can bring a man to madness.
You talked about the loss of your parents, I think it has to do with all this very unstable behavior of yours.
Tell us more about that, about your life. Any sibblings ? How do they face your troubles with reality ? Do they have the same problems ?

 

This alternative reality of yours, is it something that you have built facing your unability to embrace rationaly the possibility to meet your parent in an afterlife ?
I think that's where all those new religions come from, the old ones couldn't fit with the discoveries made by science, so we have this rising of pseudo scientific explanations of yet unexplained events, the rising of pseudo religion.
The new new-age, with their new half baked gurus. Kind of sad how man always hangs patheticly to his beliefs.

 

Hmmm...
Talmi, just because you could not win the argument with him you had before, you now come back and act like this? You stopped the discussion and refused to answer polite questions and now you turn to pure hostility. I think you should act a bit more civil. If it is the videos you do not like, you could just ask him to remove then nicely. It seems like you have a thorn in your side. You seem to be mad, mad, mad. Reverting to personal attacks. Take a couple of big breaths and calm down. Or is it your strategy to wreak havoc on a subject you happen to not care for, just as many here used to do before? That is not nice. OP has put forward a lot of interesting things here. You are the one tearing things down. If you would read what was said on Christianity or other religions you will find it is all civil, no hostility, you will find that the hostility here is yours.

 

"what kind of events can bring a man to madness."

I don't follow what you mean, are you asking how can a person spend 20 years researching on the internet everyday the separate disciplines of human progress, in order to build a picture of reality?


"You talked about the loss of your parents, I think it has to do with all this very unstable behavior of yours."

you are about to cross a line that is going to be very upsetting to me if you say the death of my parents equals me being unstable ( because im discussing a topic with other people) I demonstrated making myself vulnerable by sharing extremely personal information to open up with the people i am discussing an important topic with. (You have not shared anything like that to open yourself up to show your true intentions.) If you have the type of morality to use my parents death as a way to say fictional hurtful things , after I have shown my true intentions .
that is going to be something you have to live with.