Orchestral attempt, need critiques

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  1. cvetkowsky

    cvetkowsky Member

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    Hi fellas,

    Ive been following Audioz forever and now decided to post for the first time and become part of this community :)

    My song is an attempt to dive further into the orchestral stuff and experimenting around. Im a huge synth and low end lover, so its not an regular classical piece.

    I would love to hear your feedback and what to improve!

    Much appreciated!

    EDIT: the tune is online

     
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  3. Von_Steyr

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    Very good, memorable.Could use some EQ tweaks on certain instruments but all in all very good.
     
  4. Ponstory Games

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    I've gotta hand it to you, that was awesome. Extend all of it, especially the heavy part near the end.
     
  5. subGENRE

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    Nice I like your other music more. MIKEYTHAI now following you on soundcloud:like:
     
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  6. Ponstory Games

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    I'd love to know what you used to make this.
     
  7. flyingsleeves

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    You've attempted to combine several different ideas, but nothing is gluing them together. You started off with a nice ambient vibe, then went to this lame opera thing, then I got a Rocky vibe before you kinda got lost into I don't even know what. It reminded me a bit of a trailer score. But there was nothing connecting them together. I couldn't hear a reason why they belonged together. I think they would be better off as separate tracks.

    I would just choose one idea and then go with it. Don't try to do something different just for the sake of being different. Your audience needs something to hold on to. Something to guide them along the journey. I couldn't find anything to hold on to. It just seemed like something bizarre and confusing to me.
     
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  8. Ponstory Games

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    There is an entire genre of music like this, and no one ever complains about it not being ''glued together.'' Jeremiah Pena has made some fantastic Kontakt libraries that focus on the kinds of instruments on display in this track (I wouldn't be surprised if the track here used some of his libraries). Who says there can't be ''opera'' singing alongside these instruments? The fact that you refer to the female voice as ''opera'' shows how little exposure you have to anything outside of the genres you listen to.
     
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  9. cvetkowsky

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    Guys, really, thanks for your time!

    @Ponstory Games, thank you! For the sub, pads and syntish sounds Im using Massive, I just love to tweak and play around with delays, reverbs, pannings. Everything else is Kontakt, Symphony series strings, NOVO, Strezov choirs. Also, thank you for introducing Jeremiah, never heard of him but his stuff sounds pretty cool, I've been always into this kind of soundscapes and shapes, definitely worth the mention. I would love to extend it, but maybe some other time, I guess part 2 :)

    @flyingsleeves thanks man! Im just creating what I love and how it sounds, changing scales and harmonies were always attracted to me and nothing of this is just "for the sake of being different" :) personally, I always wanted to surprise the audience, allowing them to experience the unexpected rather than looping and using the same tools forever.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. foster911

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    We don't live in Beethoven's era with limited instrument's sounds. That limitation caused composers to seek different compositional techniques that relate to playing with notes. Today music means having a simple idea and expanding it in a loopy fashion. People getting confused by injecting different ideas into a 3~4 minute track. We have any sound you can imagine so don't interpret music like Beethoven did. We're living in sound's Era not necessarily the limited instruments. Sounds dominate what music should be not notes.
     
  11. nobodyspecial

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    great but do not overuse reverb and delays
     
  12. cvetkowsky

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    Hmmm, I share the same opinion, no idea why did you disagreed, maybe misunderstanding :) different ideas in 3-4 mins of course will confuse the audience, but keeping the leitmotif, the same flow, wont, and thats what I was referring to.
     
  13. famouslut

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    It was fine ambience to my poorly-trained, albeit slutty ears. It was kinda like if Vangelis did the soundtrack to a nature documentary, to my imagination. The vocal ullulations were a bit lame, admittedly; could've done w/ Voxos (or any) phrase builder, maybe? But at least it wasn't fucking panpipes, so kudos! =)

    Oh yeah, it's prolly mislabeled as orchestral.
     
  14. krakdhaus

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    Anyone else hearing the watermarks in those libraries?

    (he-he... jus' kiddin')
     
  15. cvetkowsky

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    This. Theres so much music nowadays that Im hearing and no clue how to categorize :) maybe cinematic fits better, but then again...
     
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    I like the track, some really good landscapes and textures.
    I think it needs (for my taste) some more low end, not just EQ, but something holding the orchestra, but overall i think it was good!
     
  17. famouslut

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    It definitely sounds like a film / tv score, but like you said that's quite a broad category. I guess you could narrow it down by what u intended when u wrote it, or what it represents; ie "triumphant elephants arrive on savannah score" or whatev! =)
     
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    Thought it was awesome! The way the strings felt like they were pulsing at the end... good instrument selection. Good shit!
     
  19. Cav Emp

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    I'll be frank. I don't know shit about orchestral music. But this is a cool track.

    If I have one criticism, it's that if it were my track, I would turn that vocal sample down and/or sink it into a nice thick reverb a bit because it sounds a bit odd to me, being so up front.
     
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  20. Mat O

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    I came along with you till the opera vocal kind of sound, the i got lost ,sorry man.... Find me ,take me to the place i want to go.
     
  21. jayxflash

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    You have to "tease", to introduce the new sounds to the listener before they actually come_in in_their_designed_segment. Specifically: before the bigg bass at the end you could "drone" the bass (single note or a sort of pitch riser) in the first part of the song or right before introducing it you could do some sort of evolving sound that culminates with the big bass. Also a little vox teaser during the violins part (distorted, droney). It will still sound surprising but it would sound "whole".
     
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