Pitch Change VST

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  1. Moonlight

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    nope, I am not looking for a modulation effect which alternate the pitch over a certain time. I just waht a fix change
     
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    You can, FL Studio proves this. Any sampler works like the same way, it just plays the audio at a different rate
     
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    Try to pitch down the audio while staying at that pitch, (horizontal line), it doesnt work
     
  4. Cav Emp

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    What about Soundtoys Little Alterboy? Range is limited, but it effects a static change in pitch.

    Or Melodyne.

    edit: Nvm he said something that will speed up the master bus. I don't know if anything can do that. Listen, you might not get an answer here.If you're talking about actually speeding it up, then you'd have to have it bounced to audio. There's no plugin that'll make your computer process the audio faster.
     
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    I just tried KKPitcher VST , it just did pitch shift (or a sliced slow down which sounds um less good )) , but not change the speed as well same as Little AltarBoy

    But thank you very much !!! KKPitcher VST is the closest what I am looking for
     
  6. Moonlight

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    Works only on Audio Tracks
     
  7. Cav Emp

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    DId you read the second part of my post?

    Maybe you got there too soon for me to edit it. There's no way to throw a plugin on your master and have it speed up the track. That means your computer would have to process and play it all back faster. You have to bounce it to audio then warp it. You can throw a tape stop on the master, but that's about it.
     
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    If you create a slope down you can't have the lowest breakpoint at -4/4 (time = -1.000 which is the very bottom. That lowers the pitch out of audible range.
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    Move the circled breakpoint up anywhere above -4/4 and you hear your audio at a lower pitch.
    You can also right-click and create a gradual curve for actual pitch bending.
     
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    Yeah mo0dulating works fine, but not chnaging infinite
     
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    Or simply play the generated audio at a different rate as a sampler does. I bet FL Studio makes it like this
     
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    I just noticed your original post says "live audio". Rendering is the easiest way to manipulate like you want live. If you use Ableton you could use dummy clips to automate tempo changes and follow actions to launch them in the order you want. The only other thing I can think of to speed up live audio would be some kind of time travel. If you use Pro Tools there's Waves Soundshifter that can do both pitch and tempo shifting but I'm pretty sure it only works on rendered audio.
    Sugar Bytes Artillery has a Granular Time Shifter and Pitch effect which you can map to different keyzones on your MIDI controller to activate simultaneously but this will only slow down live audio while pitching.
     
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    You're missing my point though. What I'm thinking is a plugin isn't going to make your whole DAW process every track faster. It can't make it play the generated audio faster because the audio hasn't been generated yet. In order for a plugin to work like that it would probably need a buffer of multiple seconds so it could wait for the audio to be played, THEN process it. A sampler works that way because it has a bounced audio file.

    If it's true that FL does it.. that's probably because FL is a DAW, and does it at the playback level. Reaper does the same thing I've heard. But again.. that's a DAW
     
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    You could also try Tape One VST, it can do some weird real time slow down/speed up effects, you can get it for free on certain websites :wink:

    http://www.noisemakers.fr/downloads/#1480545865864-eb082e8a-739f

     
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    My best guess is that KKpitcher takes the audio in sample blocks and then processes it,

    This processors adds some delay, if plugins like don't they still process it in blocks but do it in inside the asio buffer so they don't add any additional delay on top of the usual delay.

    but it still is offline processing.

    Speeding up material is beyond the capabilities of a vst plugin since it can't know what audio it would be processing in the future

    Edit: Cav Amp beat me to it, didn't read his post...
     
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  15. Cav Emp

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    Yes! thank you, this is a much more succinct version of what I was trying to say. Even if it could hypothetically be done (maybe? fuck if I know) it would be an extraordinary strain on the processor. I gotta think it'd be multiples of the current CPU load, proportional to how many times faster you're playing the audio.
     
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    WHICH DAW are you using? It might have such features built in.

    ALSO, do you need a time-varying rte of slowdown or just static?
     
  17. Moonlight

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    Just static
     
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    @huschiwuschi : what you ask in IMPOSSIBLE real time !
    There is no plugin in the whole universe to go back and forth in time...
    We are not in "back to the future" ;)

    ppl will try to help you...until they realize you are asking for something TOTALLY impossible.

    The only way to alter audio pitch AND speed in real time is RENDERING the project.
    NOT ON MASTER.

    that's all.
    I already told you. And @Cav Emp too.

    You don't need a plugin : you need to understand how real time audio works.
    It will work for pitch. NOT FOR SPEED.
     
  19. Cav Emp

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    "but a sampler can do it"
     
  20. Pinkman

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    I completely forgot the Traktor's 12 device for Guitar Rig called Transpose Stretch. I know you use Maschine so check out the Pitching options in the Performance FX section especially the Stutter. Not sure what kind of material you're working with but it gives you a 840 ms buffer for audio that you can decrease to 26 ms which kind of simulates the effect of speeding up. Kind of.
     
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