Where I can find this sound

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  1. celtic3342

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    It ´s so easy. I ´m in love with this song (not the other version running on youtube) and I would like to know which is the sound played for make my own version. From second 50 in the song. And the rest.

    Thanks a lot.

     
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    How many replies.... :dunno:
     
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    if your on about that lead "actually its in the hardware yamaha cs6x and the preset is actually named insomnia" But its been layered in places against what sounds like a jp8000 supersaw by roland.. but you can easily get a very similar if not exact sample of those classic sounds with refxnexus vst to name 1 option......Personally i dont use romplers but for these kinda traks it does have all the ol skool killa sounds ,just very poor editing capabilities, But sonically speaking are sampled off the real deal....Back then i did actually own them both and even sold the jp8000 to chicane, it was "thru a m8 tho ",then i missed it and bought the jp8080 rack vertion ha ha
     
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    Thanks jynx. You talk about the preset Insomnia in Yamaha CS6X. One question would be: is this hardware converted to VSTI or Kontakt format? And the same case for Roland JP800? And one more question. There is a similar sound in Nexus. In which extension of Nexus and the name of the preset?
    Too questions sorry but I have nightmares with that song......
     
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    The cs6x wasn't produced until 1999. The original sound is off the Roland RD 990, which was produced in 1993.Encore une fois was released in 1996. The preset is called Pizza Hutt. Click on the like bellow and scroll down to Internal Bank. It's preset 43. You can listen to it.
    http://www.synthmania.com/jd-990.htm
    Unfortunately I'm not sure if this is the actual sound you want, because your link is the lead that comes in before this, although it could be the same sound with the filter cut off turned down. Anyways look for 90's retro preset packs, any preset like "techno pizzicato"," trance pizzicato" and you'll be headed in the right direction. I hereby envoke @Baxter to come and tell how it's done on any synth, because he's rather brilliant at that sort of thing:beg:
    If your into those 90's tracks then this is a rather cool vst. Lots of classic 90's stab sounds and it's free.
    http://blog.wavosaur.com/rave-generator-vst-free-90s-stab-synth/
     
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    Yes that´s exactly the preset I´m looking for. But by the moment I didn´t find it. In other places people talk about some sylenth presets but I downloaded a lot of them and some are close but not exactly that sound from Sash.
    What I question myself is why that synthesizer has not been sampled after all these years, because I can´t find it. The one place were I found it was uploaded to megaupload.

    And yes I knew Rave Generator, a time ago I was looking for the preset used for "Airport 89" from Wood Allen, and Rave Generator has the exact sound for make a song like that. Unfortunatelly, among all the presets is not included what I need for record something like Encore une fois.

    Any other help like the exact preset would be so appreciated. The only I wish is somebody replies: "that´s the sound you need". And download as in the case of Airport 89. If somebody has the exact sound , I don´t mind the format, please.

    Thanks.
     
  8. That is rather an understatement. Take Neil deGrasse Tyson, Garry Kasperov and Stephen Hawking, meld them together with the aural chops of one audio sound designer genius from Sweden, and then and only then are you coming close to the neighborhood of our very own tonic blessing with the moniker, Baxter.
     
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    Instead of looking through thousands of presets, look for one that is similar and start turning some knobs. The sound is pretty "easy", it's nothing complex really, so if you spend some time on a synth (honestly any synth should be able to replicate that), you'll get faster results than downloading hundreds of presets.

    I'm telling you because that's what I did years ago :wink:
     
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    Not to be argumentative but it wasnt just that /this was the problem it was unique ......Regarding the actual origins of the preset"as yes the cs6x was a sample of the entire layered patch created on not just an old roland in 93,And my reference to the unit was where its availiable ,what machine can do it and not that it was the cs6 itself used back then ,off course not,,in anycase the very very original patches were not created on one machine ,i absolutley assure you,The reason it was sampled and then added to the cs6x"and too many pcm synths to mention" was a shortcut to the masses, and am aware of the release timframe, was because it was a sought after sound,every edm programmer at the time wanted and just couldnt quite get it right with the correct layering/fx processing involved to pull those sounds off "if this makes sense"Hence the entire layered preset being sampled in full and added as a preset to even the korg triton"i think but dont quote me as i cant remember i used one years back" i think the nexus has either the patces or something extremely close to it and i will check on which expantion card their on and let you know, coz i dont really use it much so cant remember but ill go check .....Of course i realise its a vst equivalent to create those kinds of sounds and not where you can obtain them via hardware you wish to know, but it just wasnt one machine "if im truly wrong on this i humbly apologise. but back then i was trying to find the hardware that created those sounds,to purchase the Synth/Synths/fx gear involved to correctly create them and stop attepting it myself as ill admit i wasnt good with layering back then and just got frustrated , and im sure idve been told it was an entire roland patch as ill admit it was difficult to get right so i asked many many extremely knowledgeble guys before every synthesizer i bought which back then when things were good for me was a new grands worth of toy a week "thats not me saying oh wow look at me btw" But thye was a time before i lost everything in 2000 that i had so much hardware it would literally run for pages n pages,But then my idiocy set in and as said i lost it all and is quite painfull for me to think off/Sorry im going off topic my friend.......
     
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    Not to soumd rude but please dont somebody say "i couldnt use em" thats why as its simply not true,and so not to seem im bigging myself up as im really not coz it lead me to the worst time in my life!!have had successes in 90s trance /hardhouse ,even had an incredibly well known tune stolen "long story" but first heard while driving back from buying an ol mk2 golf gti,"my best m8 rang me and basically congratulated me and alerted me to the fact its being played on radio one now so i retuned the radio/nearly crashed n cried at the same time he he,long story short, then i lost it all coz drugs seemed a better way to deal, but its not, and i know that now and that im the one whos responsible for ruining my life until pretty much now.. i was 20 i think asnd 39 now and found my love and can be bothered writing again, i know i overshared and went off topic i apologise peeps
     
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    No problem jynx. I found a guy who has the exact sound on youtube. I´m trying to localize him. I´m waiting for.
    The video uploaded is this:

     
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    Oh yeah sure it can be done with a bit of know how.....Thts probably the best freeware synth availiable and to this day sounds epic when you take the time to learn the phycology of the gui, but you must admit its not user friendly at all huh.....btw do you own nxs and have the dance expanders ...
    Also zebra2 is very very capable for those sorts of sounds as is dune 2 and a few other gems ive come across.....just curious bud...or are you strictly lets say "not short of a bob or two so can afford to outright purchase these things as this also matters alot" you can always pm me with your answer
     
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    The problem here is that I have no idea about synths, only play with fingers my Miditech Midistart-5. That´s all.
    That´s the reason because I ask for the exact sound. I don´t really mind the skin of the synth, but the problem is that I looked for presets for this synth and in only some minutes I found more than 300.000. What do I do? I shot myself or ask for somebody who has this exact preset?
     
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    Can't you just copy the picture in the video? Maybe it's the same parametrs used for the synth you're looking for. Nothing to understand here, just copy the image
    PS: If you "play only" then I'd suggest getting Korg M1 and Nexus, both are very light on resources and have thousands of sounds ready to use (and can be tweaked as well, although Nexus offers just a filter and two knobs lol)
     
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    this is why my question is what it is as yes i can help butnot if i dont know what you got or if youve the vsts capable to do so
     
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    Been trying to respond but never have via profile as it says you dont exist when i try to pm you m8
     
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    Is that what you were asking for?

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    ill grant you its similar in tone..." And i apologise coz ill get grief for sayin this but so many elements are missing "that i can hear or cant in this case"
    i been trawlin thru the nxs libs to find the damn prest as im sure it was on there...
    If interested a little later on when my brains in gear. as im on my first coffee ill program it with the layered bits too and try to upload the sequence and show you what i uised ok......To me thats a fair attempt but not too close "sorry if i sound rude/harsh as its not my intention....btw yes that was what he meant about the screenshot,he means to copy the serttings as i dont thinki synth 1 comes with any presets at all still but could be wrong as this may have changed now...."At the time i made the comment on synth1,when you first mentioned it" i hadnt played the vid as that freebies a goodn and still used for certain sounds ,and obviously i played it now and added my 10pence a bit late apologies "oh and remember thats a vst not a rompler,the cs6 /rolands/korgs etc etc and alot of the hardwarse counterparts are still pcm based which is why the sampled vertions are exact and the vst vertion is not, Well not without all the other bits n pieces goin on /layering etc etc
     
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