I'm looking for any opinions on what the most stable/ reliable/ non-crashy or CPU-heavy version of the cracked/ patched version of the Waves Complete bundle is in relation to Logic X 10.2.2 and OSX Mavericks. Any opinions or tips from people that regularly use Waves plugins would be most welcome!

I was thinking of installing the most recent bundle (Waves Complete 2016.08.30) as I'd previously been stuck on an old version for a few years that seemed to work well for me up until recently. Any insight into which version is widely taken as being the most stable in Logic X would be great.

Thanks!

 

They are all stable if you get it working right. Not sure about mac, but I have to copy the shell files to the right plugin directories manually then all is gOOd

 

Latest works just fine.

 

Running OS X 10.11.6 and Logic 10.2.4 or Live 9.7b5. Latest works just fine. As always. Never had any problems with the Waves Complete Suite since V9.

 

Thanks for the opinions so far! The main reason I'm asking is because with the more CPU heavy plugins such as Kramer Tape/ CLA Drums etc I experience quite frequent crashing within Logic X and I'm only able to run a couple of those types of plugins per session without my CPU spiking and overloading constantly (in some cases almost every time I press play).

It's probably in some ways down to how old my Macbook is; It's a Mid 2009 13" Macbook Pro with 2.26 Ghz Core 2 Duo processor and the max 8GB RAM installed. I recently installed a new Seagate SSHD (with 32Gb SSD portion) which has significantly increased program/ OS loading times (OS boot is now only 15 seconds compared with over 1 minute with normal HDD) but I still can't seem to run large Logic sessions full of plugins any more since updating to Mavericks.

In Snow Leopard and Logic 9 5+ years ago I was able to run 30+ plugins with 40+ tracks in one session without any problems with CPU spikes/ overloads at all. I wonder if anyone else experiences these kind of problems? I probably need a new mac haha!

 

Last edited: Sep 1, 2016

What kind of Mac do you have? If you've got an older model (mid 2009 Macbook Pro) would you recommend an El Cap update?

 

NO, a new Mac is not necessary.
I still have a Leopard MAC 10.5.8 that is working fine with Logic 9. The crucial fact may be: WHICH Plug-Ins you are using!
Some of them are CPU-monsters and consume a lot of memory space. A good option is to freeze the tracks that use such "monsters". I also have a newer Mac Yosemite 10.10.5...but i still haven't used Logic Pro X much with it. Remember that 32 Bit Plug-Ins do eat less memory than 64 Bit Plug-Ins. Logic Pro X uses 64 Bit Plug-Ins only, they're a bit faster but consume more space. I'd recommend you an upgrade to Mac Yosemite, if possible.
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Yeah absolutely, and I've even thought of going back to Snow Leopard recently (although loads of programs I use currently obviously aren't supported any more) or just partitioning my hard drive with a space specifically for use with Logic Pro 9.

I'm mainly saying I need a new mac because I just need more RAM/ a better processor to be able to smoothly run the kind of plugins I like to use (such as the 64 bit ones you mention) and my logic board doesn't accept more than 8gb RAM and that's pretty rubbish for music production these days. I feel that there's only so much you can do with a computer that has seven year old technology at this point especially when programs like Logic X use 64 bit architecture and require a lot of processing power to run.

I do use the freezing option a lot when I'm using plugins I know are CPU hogs, the problem is when mixing/ writing I often automate the parameters within a plugin over the course of a song so it's often quite counterproductive to keep freezing and un-freezing tracks constantly. I also use bounce-in-place quite often to save myself from those plugins I know cause CPU problems but yes you're right, I find I get the most problems from certain Waves plugins which is why I specifically aimed this thread at the Waves Bundle!

In relation to an update I've read a lot of things online where people say Yosemite slows up older machines, would you say it'd be more efficient running Logic X than Mavericks is? I tend to put off major OSX releases in recent years until a few versions in. I've stayed with Mavericks as it seems to work well for me at the moment with everything else apart from the Logic CPU problems. Do you have any experience with El Cap?

Thanks for your input anyway!

 

Last edited: Sep 1, 2016

NO, my latest MAC machine is on YOSEMITE. Some say "El Capitan" brings lots of issues with audio software.
Most problems of Logic Pro X are related to Apple's own "codesigning Inferno" and security measures.
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I've seen it called "El Crapitan" quite a bit. Yeah I'd heard that also, although the latest updates somewhat improved on the audio production front I'm not confident enough in it to update especially as it'd be on an 'old' macbook. Thanks for the info!

 

Last edited: Sep 2, 2016

Wave is very overrated I think. Who needs all this for a good sound?

 

I forgot to download Yosemite like an idiot from my apple account.... I can login to a friends applestore account and download the .dmg and save it to another drive right? (my work machine still on 10.8.5, but going to move to 10.9.5 soon as NI and others have forced my hand )... yosemite better for audio then mavericks or no @Kookaboo? (and are there any obvious "gotcha's"?

 

I agree for a lot of their plugins, but there are a few I like and find quite useful. I just started the thread because I wanted to get opinions on which version seems the least buggy/ CPU intensive/ 'best' with Logic X and thought I'd be likely to get some useful info from fellow AudioSex members. It wasn't a question about whether they're 'good' or not, just curious if other people had experienced the same kind of problems I had and if it might have been the version of the Waves bundle I had installed.

 

Last edited: Sep 3, 2016

To be honest I feel like if Mavericks works for you and your mac is more than 6-7 years old you may as well stick with it. "If it 'aint broke don't fix it". You could always make a backup (Time Machine or whatever other app) and install Yosemite and if you notice problems with it just roll it back to Mavericks.

 

Mavericks and El cap are pretty much stable.Yosemite is c*ap.it's like mountain lion over Snow leopard (the most stable OS X version IMO)

 

One things for sure... with the later iterations of OSX... No matter what old mac you have, A SSD for the System is a must have in my book.
To Add, 10.6 is my favourite OSx... But Once you get around SIP and a few other security measures 10.11 is as close as being back there again.
Its Fast and Rock Solid...... YMMV.

 

yup, snow leopard was my favorite... 10.6.8... stayed with it for years.... and now mountain lion.... but will have to move soon... mavericks at least.. thanks for the info on el cap etc guys...