What do the underground genres mean today? Is still anything left not revealed much?

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  1. foster911

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    Someday, one of the biggest honors of some musicians or electronic artists was their working on the things that they'd tend to call them underground genres (or sub-genres). Still they're being kept away from the reach of the mainstream media and vast audiences for whatever reason (perhaps you know why).

    1- Is there any underground genre or style (electronic or non-electronic) that can not be easily found eg. on Youtube or elsewhere?

    2- Are you still waiting for any new astonishing one (genre) that makes you flabbergasted (extremely surprised)?

    3- I think we've reached to the saturation both in the genres and also their fusions. What do you think?
     
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  3. Sonny Crockett

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    If I can't think the answer I'd say there's not much left to be created (style regarding), but, everything is possible.
    I think all that remains so far would be to mix styles in any case, but I honestly don't feel there's something new available, or at least something that could be considered a new genre, but then again, everything is possible.
    For instance, if I tell you metal + new age would you call me crazy? Then check out Marty Friedman's Scenes or Introduction, it blows your mind (at least blew mine), and that's a combination I'd love to dig into but I don't have the necessary means.
     
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    Its hard to say. Most dance "genres" these days are just a variation of multiple genres or borrow one (or more) elements from a pre-existing one.

    Its quite interesting in respect to the way things evolve. For instance, if you do a search for "deep house" at traxsource or beatport, the likelihood that you will find anything remotely resembling what used to be considered deep house is negligible. That can also sometimes be disheartening for someone who grew up with a genre and experienced it through its infancy, only to find that as it evolved it just lost what drew them to it in the first place. I often think of it in a metaphorical sense, like raising a child only to have it grow up into someone you weren't expecting and probably don't like nearly as much as when they were a baby haha.

    Then there are genres that just seem to evolve but still retain that "thing" that made you fall in love with it in the first place. For me, that has always been drum and bass. I was born and raised in the Caribbean and grew up with a healthy dose of salsa, meregue, cumbia and latin jazz. The syncopation in those genres is embedded in my dna. And that's what has always drawn me to drum and bass. At it's heart, it has that "soul" that speaks to me. Even if it's different, it's the same.

    I'm definitely not the kind of person that bags on new music or new genres. Music will always continue to amalgamate and create new genres... some good, some bad... but at the end of the day all that matters to me is that it has soul and longevity. If I can listen to a tune 10, 20, 30 years from now and vibe on it, that's all I care about.

     
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    :deep_facepalm: Underground genres and sub-genres are not the same thing...

    I saw/heard pop music destroying every single genre it touched, since late 80's, early 90's... R&B, Dance, Hip Hop, Rock, (...), and finally "house". I'm not sure i can call mainstream music by music, it's a cancer that steals any genre's soul...
    When that cancer takes any area of music, everything around tends to be reorganized, some ppl call that evolution, i call that adaptation...
     
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    I think #3. We're pretty much on the edge of whats' there. Now the music industry has shifted from a selected few to litteraly -every and anyone- to give it a shot to become the next envy of humanity. We're in for a treat though, bandcamp, tradiio, youtube every nutter with a version of Live and a few freshly downloaded packs' is gonna give it a shot, so strap in. Yet I don't feel something's lurking around the corner to make its grand appearance, like eh, rock & roll, eh, house, eh ... Making music, mostly electronic or homestudio based, will be as normal as making your own jam. It almost already is. Perhaps there is a cult growing in the shadows, lurking in the underground, that have moved to the next level where they make a new music that consists only of silence while the crowd moves viciously. Maybe just looking at instruments or soundsystems in a strange way. Or of giant pieces of silence with one really well placed kickdrum, musique concrete perhaps... :bleh: Who knows, its the underground baby!
     
  7. foster911

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    Straightly or homosexually?:hillbilly:
     
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    1- Is there any underground genre or style (electronic or non-electronic) that can not be easily found eg. on Youtube or elsewhere?

    IT WOULD BE SAFE TO SAY THAT, THANKS TO YOUTUBE "AND ELSEWHERE," EVERYTHING'S POTENTIALLY OUT IN THE OPEN.

    2- Are you still waiting for any new astonishing one (genre) that makes you flabbergasted (extremely surprised)?

    I AM WAITING FOR SOME STYLE OF MUSIC, OR BAND, OR MUSICAL ARTIST, TO SCARE THE SHIT OUTA ME AGAIN.

    3- I think we've reached to the saturation both in the genres and also their fusions. What do you think?

    THERE HAS BEEN TOO MUCH IN-BREEDING AND CROSS-POLLINATION, THANKS IN PART TO SAMPLING, AND ALSO IN PART TO ITS HAVING BECOME NORMAL TO BE DERIVATIVE AND EVEN TO BE PROUD OF IT, AS WELL AS TO PEOPLE'S BEING AFRAID OR INCAPABLE OF COMING UP WITH ANYTHING NEW OR NOT DOING SOMETHING WHICH MIGHT GAIN OTHERS' FAVOR BY SOUNDING FAMILIAR ENOUGH TO SOMETHING POPULAR.
     
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    nailed it !!
     
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