UAD? Slate? Waves? Blind Test Results

Discussion in 'Mixing and Mastering' started by mercurysoto, Apr 28, 2016.

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Listen to the samples below and choose the best one for you. Four 1176 emulations are on test:

Poll closed May 1, 2016.
  1. Sample 1

    14 vote(s)
    16.3%
  2. Sample 2

    8 vote(s)
    9.3%
  3. Sample 3

    15 vote(s)
    17.4%
  4. Sample 4

    49 vote(s)
    57.0%
  1. mercurysoto

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    UPDATE
    You can download the audios of this test on the original format (48 kbps/24 bits) here (28 Mb .zip file). Decrypyion key: LKFGjEyKps7cfwQDggvdxh1i1setWO27M_B2VBux21g

    Original drums:


    Sample One:


    Sample Two:


    Sample Three:


    Sample Four:


    Recent discussions on the forum have dealt with the comparison among plugin developers. So instead of giving one more opinion, I have tried to yield some facts. I have put the following four 1176 compressor emulations side by side:

    UAD 1176 rev. AE
    Waves CLA-76
    Bomb Factory BF76, and
    Slate Digital FG-116 (from their VMR)

    The sample is a drum groove taken from Steven Slate Drums 4. And the signal chain is as follows:

    (1) SSD4
    (2) Hornet's VU meter set at -18
    (3) the compressor of choice, and
    (4) another Instance of Hornet's VU meter to try to ensure consistent output among compressors

    All four compressors were tweaked to the same settings:

    (1) Input Gain up until the meter reads from -3 to -5 reduction
    (2) Output Gain matching the source sample
    (3) Ratio of 4:1
    (4) Attack full counterclockwise (slowest)
    (5) Release full clockwise (fastest)

    The idea was to let the compressors impart their character and tone without mushing the original signal too much. I tried to match levels, keeping most of the audio at -3 on the output VU meter with peaks that varied among the compressors from 0 to +2.

    Enough chit chat, listen out and vote away. In a couple of days I'll tell you which is which.


    Peace to you all.
     
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  3. artwerkski

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    Great show! Looking forward to the revelations.... :wink:
    (tough call, they sound very close, if not the same, but I made a decision after playing the samples really-really loud.) You should post the samples as .wav or flac for true comparison.
     
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  4. JockÄl

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    No.1's a bit too punchy for a 4:1 and no. 2 gives the highs too much attention. 3 & 4 are pretty similar, so personally I went with no. 4.
     
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  5. ElecTrick

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    I don´t know if it´s the best emulation because I don´t have any 1176, but, comparing the sound files with the original, I also like the best the number 4 :wink: , then the number 3, then number 2 and then number 1.
     
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  6. ia

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    Let me say that I guess 1st is Waves imho - to my ear the best. very aggressive and top notch sound for rock/metal
    #3 and #4 sound very similar to me but not so aggressive and tight like #1
    #2 is good but I hear very subtle compression
     
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    Number 4 seems perfect so... I chose number 3 (...I love a lil' bit of imperfection)
     
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    2 is my choice
     
  9. Bill Vkerchi?

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    Mm maybe on #4 max release time is a bit slower than on the others. Which fits the material more. I don't think this fully clockwise method of comparison is fair.
     
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    + 100 kudo's for mercury Soto for putting in his time! great job man lets wait for the results
     
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    I went for 4 for the warmer but clear definition
    3 miss a bit of clarity in the overheads - 1 & 2 looks roughly the same for me and I found these a bit cold

    knowing my monitoring speakers aren't plugged with my web settings, I may be misleading

    I suppose the settings are the same for the four emulations ...(?)
     
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    I'll upload a file somewhere with the complete set of files in 48/24, the original audio file resolution I used. I'm away now, but I'll get to it in a few hours.

    Thank you all for your interest.
     
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    Yup. Exactly the same, but each one reacts differently to the same settings. As I stated before, setting them all the same way is unfair since each emulation is modeled after a different unit, and no two units will sound the same, the beauty of analog. Each plugin's sweet spot is different, but that would have made the test more subjective even.
     
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    3>4
     
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    First.
     
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    if i had to choose... I'd say 1-4.. for sure... and definitely 1,2,3 and 4 are better than none of them.

    Now, I'm off to spend time doing something more useful :rofl:

    mmm.. perhaps counting banana chips or playing air guitar..
     
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    4 to me has a bit more transients than 3. I like 3 and 4, but voted for 4.
    1 to me is too much pumping, very roomy and heavy-squashed. 2 is not so bad, but roomy and pumping a bit again, has some not bad punch, but better than 1.
    so, 4>3>2>1

    Listened on notebook built-in shitty-speakers
     
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    1- too agressive, doesn't breathe
    2 - dont like it :)
    3 - VOTE
    4 - great, but too transparent :)

    ps - I'm a video game (orchestral) composer, and don't have a clue about mixing drums :bleh:
     
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    4 - great
     
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    Farce!
     
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    My fav is definitely 4, compact and still transparent, no mush
     
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