Fabfilter Q2

Discussion in 'Mixing and Mastering' started by neo lover, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. focusrite

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    Like this

     
  2. AndersenAxel

    AndersenAxel Noisemaker

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    Hi.

    Fabfilter promotes Pro-Q as an equalizer, so it's an equalizer despite the uses you give to it. That being said, they have all the rights to leave Pro-Q as a plugin with lots of features all meant for surgical equalizing. In fact, they already have a tool for complex filtering which is Volcano 2, where in that case you should be asking them to improve the tool they give for the task (although you can't because I'm sure you are using R2R).
     
  3. returnal

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    In general I love it when people use gear in ways, or for purposes, that were originally unintended by the gear-maker. I think many of the most interesting and inspirational developments in music history have come this way. I'm surprised to hear the use the tool as it was intended or use the intended tool argument so staunchly supported here.

    So a lot of people wouldn't want the additional clutter of LFO's etc., in Q2 because they use the tool as a surgical EQ (it's original purpose) . . . but that doesn't mean FF couldn't leave Q2 as is but create another version with all of Q2's features and more . . . like LFO's, envelope followers, etc. I don't think it's a ridiculous suggestion. The Q2M!
     
  4. AndersenAxel

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    Hi.

    It's called Volcano 2.
     
  5. returnal

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    Well not quite apparently . . .

     
  6. Oysters

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    this sounds very interesting and genuinely inspiring (in the classic working within limitations mantra). but perhaps it would easier do with specialist filter plugins... maybe old volcano 2 doesn't cut it, but others with comb filter style shapes would be do the trick very fast.

    edit: maybe something like this?

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    but ultimately i agree with others... it is volcano2 that needs improving not Q2
     
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  7. MrRobRancor

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    you could always use a separate LFO plugin like xfer records LFO Tool
     
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    Overall, I feel the concept is actually not a bad idea, it's just that it isn't right for Q2. FFQ2 is meant to feel lightweight and powerful, since people use it heavily on every track. Sometimes two in one track pre and post.

    But the idea of an EQ with modulation capabilities and powerful options isn't a terrible movement, but in fact a really good one... in fact, it's actually more cooler than XY modulation, especially for things like heavy sound processing or live performances...

    Imagine you had an EQ on an ipad in a live show, and you pulled down a slight notch on 200Hz or something, and it ended doing some crazy effect at that frequency notch, and then another notch you pulled up and you got a loud amplitude with a crazier effect... that I would definately use in shows... but also something I might need to think about more technically and experiment with to see its effectiveness... but still an interesting idea...

    We can have multiband compressors/expanders so why not a modulated multiband EQ...?
     
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  9. Rhodes

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    no problems here, just patch all the files (main program folder), not only the aax
     
  10. dr.evil

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  11. dr.evil

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    Fabfilter is such a great eq both visual and quality wise..
    additional lfo won't make it a surgical eq afterall would it?
    You can always automate..
     
  12. neo lover

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    I'm amazed at the level of conformity here - The rules are there to be broken - This is how we discover new possibilitys - DnB has always pushed the envolope -
     
  13. neo lover

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    A compressor was first created exclusively as a way to level the amplitude fluctuations in an audio signal - We then experimented with the compressor and discovered the subtle distortion and clouration characteristics it could imbue on our sound - We found that a compressor could be used as a ducking device or as a brick-wall limiter - We use a compressor to carry out EQing tasks - To make master outputs pump - To carry out parallel processing etc etc etc - this goes on and on and on because we experiment - we push the envelope - we do not except that a compressor is just a levelling tool -
     
  14. dr.evil

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    @neo lover agreed compressors have many use and variation. we have also found various uses of eqs most notably for example filter sweeps, modulated filters etc.
    But equalizers with added lfos and envelopes are 'filter effects' not equalizers. Just look at sound toy plugins and see what filters can do. But they are not essentially eqs. they are effects..
    So when i say we don't need to add any lfos and envelopes in fab q2 i stand my ground because as a surgical tool eq as a tool has it's own place. You wanna play around filters and create a new tool then you call it effect not eq..
     
  15. neo lover

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    Fabfilter Q2 is a filter - that's the point - All EQ's are filters -
     
  16. junh1024

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    LFOing is a DAW feature.

    Wouldn't it be nice if I could LFO just this one thing? and then you would want it for every other VST pretty soon.

    CUBASE can generate automation based on LFO iirc
    REAPER can LFO, ACS, and PL almost any parameter in VSTs

    you get the idea.

    Fabfilter stuff has MIDI learn. It's up to you to make it work in your DAW.
     
  17. tidus1990

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    People fail to realize how cutting edge Q2 is. Name another plug=in with a 96 dB/octave pole. Anyways Neo Lover can you post examples of these cutting edge sound design techniques with Q2?
     
  18. DanielFaraday

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    Izotope ozone/alloy.
     
  19. bluerover

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    You want to modulate EQ points? Have you checked out Melda plugins?
     
  20. bluerover

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    Melda's MEquilizer - 120 db/octave
     
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