They never locked a door, doors were closed from the beginning, bedroom producers either had to save up or use either Cubase or Logic. Now they're opening it up, because no one cares about quality, songs are literally thrown together loops with Ozone preset on top, job done... Avid unfortunately most likely dying a slow death, thanks to "artistic musicians".., that's why real artists don't do music anymore, they can't compete with avicci or garrix... get a degree get a job, put music aside as a hobby, that's the plan for most... otherwise you'll end up on a street, try to pull off bob dilan, see how well you'll sell...

 

Bought cubase 7. Now on 8.5.
I really dont care if its better or worse than any other. It suits me.
And that's all there is to know.

 

Fail to see what? that you apparently didn't get the point? Try to sell that song now... that's what I mean... and compete with avicci...

 

show us some art of it? something against Bob dylan, Peter Gabriel, Roger Waters, Freddie Mercury who are they? who's avicci, next month.... wake me up wake me up, f***ing talent-less computerized nonsense.... one thing is fuck the system, another is typing in notes with a mouse in fl studio and being called an "artist" a f***ing "visionary"... shows us art which has come out from that...

 

My God! You like an argument. Dont you?

 

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Prolly asked and answered but WTH...

When you want a VST, there's a long path to it
Just select the "sort VST plugins by vendor" or whatever. It's prolly the first option I change when I first setup new Cubase. Try using Waves as VST3. Sonar does it a lot better tho, if memory serves.

When you wanna record, you gotta click the audio monitor icon
U just go to Prefs>Editing>Project & Mix console>Enable record...

but just after recording if you wanna listen to it you have to unclick it, otherwise you won't listen
? U just press play to listen to something?

I know how to do pretty much anything on Cubase
Like edit settings :P ?

Cubase simply lacks a good GUI
Guess it's subjective, but that may be merited. U can change the colours etcs I suppose. The way it looks is generally clear & ok; but not being scaleable / having scaleable elements is a huge pain, for me. Like Kontakt, the smaller the button, the more important it usually is. Plus the random changes to resolution are a plague.

I feel like I'm using a computer through command line
I kinda like the "invent ur own key commands" DOSness of it, which is maybe (?) what ur getting at. Quick and efficient, especially given u hate the gui so much.

The nice thing is that Pro Tools is the ---Industry Standard
I think they mean that a lot of people know the name.

have a somewhat cold/sterile tone
You can try making the interface red which may warm your cognitive bias?

 

Some truly disturbing lack of knowledge on show here.

Cubase can only automate via midi cc? Lol, I'd google that it if I were you.

You can just arm it up to record and then just turn the knobs on the vst and it will auto record that automation... and it had temp syncable drawable automation before studio one existed, now it has virgin territories as well.

Welcome to the 21st century when lack of knowledge = knowledge

 

Funny watching the Elitist trying to defend their investments. Please go on it's great reading while I sip on my coffee.

 

No, because most of the time I've to spell out to a person, letter by letter, his own fallacies, I have to take a mirror and show to a person how it looks from aside, otherwise it would never end and a person would think that he's "winning" while drowning in his own multiple layers of delusions within delusions...

 

Bitwig is one daw that's not mentioned too much here and I just have to say that it's the one for me!
I've tried most of the others out there and find that Bitwig and Studio One 3 fit my purposes overall.

I especially like the drag & drop features and the overall slick work flow from both of these Daw's.

It definitively boils down to personal taste!
I, personally have found pro tools to be the most troublesome of all of the daw's that I've tried but that may be down to the fact that it was a cracked version!

We all have our personal favourites and there's no use in getting into petty arguments over personal choices!

Audiosex is a pretty awsome sight for these types of discussions and I urge You guys to keep it on the positive as we can learn a lot from these types of discussions.

Peace

 

Is that person even worth the effort man?
Ignorance is a preference!

 

It's worth a try sometimes, but if a person keeps on repeating the same thing without a reasonable basis, then of course it's better to give up.

 

"Am I the only one who thinks worst DAW's are the most used ones.":
Yeah you prolly are one of a few that has this experience!

But your refletions on if one daw record better than another is right on the spot!

I´ve seen a lot of tests on this issiue, and all tests prove this:
It´s almost the same for them all!!! ..... so saying one sequenser record better than another is nearly complete nonsense!

 

I must admit man that some of these dudes really take the biscuit.. and trying to reason with them is a great lesson in futility!

It's a waste of time!!!!!

Energy best spent on your own pursuits!

 

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Lol I am just laughing the heck out of your over-reactive hyper response buddy.

Where did you get the impression from that I am degrading the mighty Pro Tools? Where did you get that I am comparing FL studio with PT? Apples with oranges?



Firstly I was saying why PT is industry standard and good that you explained it more.

Secondly I was commenting on the sound quality. I took FL simply as an example that if you work in a least favoured DAW like FL in a professional way, you can still get astonishing results. Alongside that, I was simply praising some of the things it does painlessly. I-DON'T-USE-FL-STUDIO.....I am Studio One die hard user, but then I don't praise it the heck out of my shit even when it deserves. All I meant to say PT came out when nothing was there. Naturally it had to be on top for being here for the past 24 (?) years (1991). Had it not been evolved to the extent you are praising it since it's induction (and which is true), it would have been a real piss off and an insult to Avid and it's fanatic cult. It had to be there where it is right now, that's why it is industry standard - however dying very fast! When there is a rise, there is a fall. Back then PT had no rivals apart from Cubase and Logic (the actual working virtual environments) so PT had an easy path to pave. Point is where it is right now is the work of two and half decades. The development of the newer DAWs is so fast today that their pace predicts leaving PT behind in few years or less may be. One DAW I admire and would personally like to use in future along with S1 is DP which imho is a beast.

And lol, Avicii and what that other name? Buddy do double check before you cite something. I don't even know them ...are they edm, trance, dubstep etc musicians?

Hope, you got my point this time ;)

 

Same here, I always say that. The best DAW is the one which extracts the best out of you!

 

In general, there's lots of stuff I'd wanna pick and mix from different DAWs - the interface and "autoadaptation" from Studio One, the kinda Wipeout (game) minimalism, modularity & display scaling of Ableton. The OS interaction, VST handling & "sortability" from Sonar. The MIDI editing / handling, multiple ways of doing shit & MIDI transformation etcs of Cubase. I guess the last lot is the most important, to me, so I end up using Cubase most. Although it's mostly due to familiarity I guess, nowadays.

The reason that PT sucks for me is the thing that other people like about it. I hate the ass-backwardsness of it, where everthing happens from poking around in the mixer; counterintuitively. In my imagination instruments (etcs) plug into a mixer, you don't pull your instrument outta it. To a certain extent the "FX" thing in Reaper is some weird shit that doesnt make any real sense, either. There's lots of similar little niggles about both. Plus i hate the "loada balls" icon for Reaper.

state of the art automation capabilities
I try to avoid automation, but I'll check out PT. I hate the way that automation happens in general in Cubase (and prolly every other DAW). Why make (recorded data) into some special case? A special case that is not special. It's a mystery why the data doesn't drive everything and need "filtering", instead of doing nothing; needing to be fucked around with before use.

 

I took your reply for "bullet points", like "Industry Standard" and "the best audio quality ever"

Anything else were my comparison of Fl Studio and pro tools vs your comparison where you called it "one of the most versatile DAW available today ahead in some capabilities as compared to others" and "many professional composers using it until their work arrives in a studio for mastering " as opposed to pro tools, where you mentioned pro tools directly.
So I gave the names of Professional composers and amateur avicci with his drawn in notes "masterpieces", you can of course elaborate on those professional composers, because I don't know any, who actively score movies using fl studio... so avicci was the most famous user of it, I could come up with as a comparison...

Love this one
"Had it not been evolved to the extent you are praising it since it's induction (and which is true), it would have been a real piss off and an insult to Avid and it's fanatic cult "
I 100% agree here, but then again had humans not evolved...

 

You a true man of reasonable arguments I see... I guess you love existential philosophy, right?

 

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