Waves plugins and opengl

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  1. solo83

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    Does anyone know of any solutions to get waves plugins to work on intel hd core grapic cards that have discontinued updates? I'm currently on a Toshiba Satelite A505 using an intel i3 330m, with 6gb rams and 500gb hard drive. Intel has discontinued servicing these graphic drivers as well as some i5 and i7 core processors as well. Unfortunately waves plugins need a compatible version of opengl to run and these graphic cards (although having opengl) don't have the opengl extensions to run waves plugins properly. So what I'm left with is, waves plugins that work and function properly yet crash every time upon closing due to the lack of accelarated graphic options accessible to certain open gl extensions. Anyone know of any workaround?
     
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  3. junh1024

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    Try up/downgrading your graphics drivers. I'm not sure they use OpenGL.

    There may be some graphics settings you cn change in the Intel gfx control panel.

    I use waves on i3-530 igpu. (desktop)
     
  4. solo83

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    Ive researched the problem ad nauseam. The problem comes down to accelarated graphic options not accesible on the versions of open gl a few intel core processors use. The big issue is that Intel has discontinued graphic card service for a number of their core processors. I'm not sure about the downgrading of graphic drivers. Or if that's even possible given that intel has discontinued sevice. Also, changing the graphics card is out of the question as my laptop as well as most others require you to change the whole motherboard.
     
  5. SineWave

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    Try downgrading the Waves plugins. I'm not joking. v7, v8 or older Waves plugins work better, smoother, and more efficient than v9. I actually find v9 Waves a complete letdown regarding processing efficiency. Of course, you will have to let go of some of the newer Waves plugins if you decide to use older versions, and older versions are x86 only, of course. I stopped using Waves plugins several years ago because I find them to be superseded in quality by pretty much every other plugin manufacturer these days... but I still would use a couple of Waves plugins like RCL or API 2500 which are still really nice sounding compressors.

    If that's not an option, try experimenting with different Intel VGA drivers and remember that newer is not always better! Often, an older driver will work better for a DAW. I'm speaking from almost 20y of experience with PC DAWs. For example I'm still using Nvidia v196 driver with my Windows XP x86 because after a day of testing with various driver versions they proved to be the best and most compatible with my OS, DAW, and plugins. For Windows 7x64 I am using a newer v296 driver, of course.

    Cheers :mates:!
     
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    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    waves plugins are in general a letdown, resource hungry, its like you have a lot of trash on your HDD. i stopped using them as it makes fun to have them in a project. there are also better plugins out there, which are less resource hungry or simply works better.
    stopped installing them like right after 9r2 or so came out. (because i never used them really).
    i dont think the pros really using them as they claim in the videos, you get the stuff for free from companies like waves, you say for sure you like it, but do you really use it, when nobody is looking? i doubt it.
     
  7. solo83

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    This might actually work. As older waves plugins use an earlier version of open gl.
     
  8. solo83

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    I only like two plugins. renaissance bass and the CLA limiter...lol
     
  9. Kwissbeats

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    the 2a emulation? u should really check cakewalks version.
    I like cla 76 and H-delay, didn't yet found any plug-in to replace them.
    I do have other compressors and delays ofc but none of them are doing what these 2 puppies do with minimum tweaking.

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    Lol forgot the OP :rofl: but maybe modded drivers exists?
    my intel dualcore with intel gma used to have that
     
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  10. SineWave

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    I had problems with Waves plugins and Cubase 7 on one of my assembled-for-a-client Intel 4790 Haswell computers with Windows 7 x64, and I solved the problem by deinstalling the latest Intel VGA driver and installing an older driver, but I cannot remember what version it was. Sorry. I think it was from 2013 or maybe early 2014. Thankfully it is easy to download older drivers from Intel website.

    Generally, Nvidia drivers seem to work the best with DAWs, in my experience, but you can make it work properly with just about any VGA if you research the issue thoroughly.

    Cheers!
     
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