METAL: re-amping / re-amp

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    METAL: re-amping / re-amp

    STRUCTURE of this POST:

    1) re -amping
    a) what is re -amping ?
    b) how to re -amping
    c) video tutos, explain. re -amping

    2) di box/DI unit (active /pasive) /re-ampbox / Loadbox /
    *conclusion:
    3) Isolation cabinet / speaker isolation / isolating Mic /
    speaker/ Loudspeaker /mic position (cone/edge/cap)+(on axis-off axis)+(distance)
    best mic/ type of mic to record

    4) on-line RE-amping: *(using an online service of re-amping on net)

    a)How does reamping online work?
    b) videos tutorials how ON-line RE-AMP works
    c) some ON-line service of RE-amping / re-amp

    5) some considerations:
    a) at HOME ´´in the box´´
    b)using on line service

    6) bonus:

    7) for hardware units IR loaders SEE THIS POST: https://audiosex.pro/threads/metal-hardware-ir-modules.22269/

    8) for software IR loader and IR (impulse response) SEE this other post: https://audiosex.pro/threads/metal-impulse-response-list.22267/

    9) for convolution ir : see this POST: https://audiosex.pro/threads/metal-convolution-reverb-impulse-response-extension-part-2.22270/


    you can re-amp all the instruments that you want, means, its NOT only for guitar,
    re-amp it serves, for drumms, bass, guitar, vocals, all instruments you want.
    you see on this post, maybe only talk about GUITARS, but re-amp its for ALL the instruments.

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    1)............. Re-amp: (what its ?).........
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    a)
    Reamping is a process often used in multitrack recording in which a recorded signal is routed back out of the editing environment and run through external processing or reverb chamber. Originally, the technique was used mostly for guitars: it facilitates a separation of guitar playing from guitar amplifier processing—a previously recorded audio program is played back and re-recorded at a later time for the purpose of adding effects, ambience, or modified tonality. The technique has since evolved to include many other applications. Re-amping can also be applied to other instruments and program, such as recorded drums, synthesizers, and virtual instruments.
    Examples of common re-amping objectives include musically useful amplifier distortion, room tone, compression, EQ/filters, envelopes, resonance, and gating. Re-amping is often used to "warm up" dry tracks, which often means adding complex, musically interesting compression, distortion, filtering, ambience, and other pleasing effects. By playing a dry signal through a studio's main monitors and then using room mics to capture the ambience, engineers are able to create realistic reverbs and blend the wet signal with the original dry recording to achieve the desired amount of depth.
    The technique is especially useful for softening stereo drum tracks. By pointing the monitors away from each other and miking each speaker individually, the stereo image can be well preserved and a new depth can be added to the track. It is important to check that the microphones being used are in phase to avoid problems with the mix.


    Re-amp:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-amp

    Re-amp/basic:
    http://www.radialeng.com/reamp-basics.php

    reamp:
    http://www.reamp.com/applications.html


    The History of Reamping:
    http://www.radialeng.com/reamp-history.php

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    b) Re-amp: (how to ?)


    puremix:
    How to Reamp, Getting Out of the Box:
    http://www.puremix.net/blog/how-to-reamp-getting-out-of-the-box.html

    soundonsound:
    Q How common is re-amping?
    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep10/articles/qa0910-5.htm

    A Guide to Re-Amping Techniques:
    http://theproaudiofiles.com/re-amp/

    DI Recording and Reamping Electric Guitars:
    http://www.recordingmag.com/resources/resourceDetail/203.html


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    c) Re-amp: (video tutos, explain, how to)

    Ryan Bruce:
    Tutorial: How To Re-Amp Guitars



    Re-amping Guitars w. Eddie Kramer & Llexi Leon


    Equinox WRX:
    Guitar Reamping 101


    Ola Englund:
    Reamping 101




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    2).............. di box /di unit/re-amp box/Loadbox.......
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    di box: (info+wikipedia)

    A DI unit, DI box, direct box, or simply DI (variously claimed to stand for direct input, direct injection, direct induction or direct interface), is a device typically used in recording studios to connect a high-impedance, line level, unbalanced output signal to a low-impedance microphone level balanced input, usually via XLR connector. DIs are frequently used to connect an electric guitar or electric bass to a mixing console's microphone input. The DI performs level matching, balancing, and either active buffering or passive impedance matching/impedance bridging to minimize noise, distortion, and ground loops.

    DI boxes are extensively used with professional and semi-professional PA systems and in sound recording studios.

    alsos here:

    Passive DI units
    +
    Active DI units

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DI_unit

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    VIDEO:

    What does a DI box do?


    more: videos
    DI boxes - GLB Productions
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcTpo3gc2RJxKh7_x7Uttsz_BmH-1llW1




    di box/DI unit (active /pasive) :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DI_unit (info pasive vs active)

    Passive DI is UNBALLANCED line level to BALLANCED mic level. High to low voltage. High to low impedance. Mono jack to XLR. Can be reversed.

    Active DI is the same, but electronics at the input raise the input impedance to a more suitable value for guitar or piezo pickup. Not reversable.

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    re-amp box (Active vs Pasive):
    Re-amp is BALLANCED LINE level to UNBALLANCED LINE level. High to high voltage. TRS ballanced to TS unballanced.
    some info from: Radial engineering

    X-Amp® Active Re-Amplifier
    http://www.radialeng.com/xamp.php

    Reamp® JCR™ Studio Reamper (pasive)
    http://www.radialeng.com/jcr.php

    active-vs-passive
    http://www.radialeng.com/active-vs-passive.php

    interesting scheme from: Radial Engineering
    http://www.radialeng.com/roadmap-electric.php

    Radial Engineering ProRMP Re-Amp Box




    *conclusion newbie:

    It is not the same, a di box / di unit, than a di Reamp box. especially the balanced output signal.
    di box: used to record directly to a computer, with or without an amplifier.

    di re-amp box, used after the track recorded.

    on this videos, explain better de diference, between a di BOX than a di Reamp.
    and after active vs. passive.

    Loadbox :

    Load Box:
    http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/load-box/

    What’s the Difference Between an Attenuator and a Load Box?
    http://www.sweetwater.com/insync/whats-the-difference-between-an-attenuator-and-a-load-box/


    ----------- some manufactures --------------

    Radialeng:
    http://www.radialeng.com/

    tech21nyc
    http://www.tech21nyc.com/

    behringer:
    http://www.music-group.com/search/behringer?text=di

    and more manufactures:
    Direct Boxes and DI Devices such a Radial, A Designs, Avalon, Alto, Apex, ART, Reamp, Avenson, Ebtech, Presonus, Rupert Neve, Safe Sound Audio, TL Audio, Sonifex, Phoenix Audio, Tapco, Samson, Yorkville, SM Pro Audio and more! We offer Direct Boxes and DI Devices for all studio recording, home recording and live audio applications!! We have a large assortment of Passive, Active, and Re-amplifying Direct Boxes and DI Devices.

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    3).............. speaker/cabinet isolation ......................
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    Isolation cabinet (guitar)
    A guitar speaker isolation cabinet is a sound-proof enclosure that surrounds the speaker and sound-capturing microphone and prevents sound leakage into the outside environment, enabling the amplifier to be turned up without excessive listening volume. An amplifier at full volume is extremely loud, posing a risk to hearing and an annoyance to neighbors, and will often drown out other instruments in a mix.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_cabinet_(guitar)


    Building an Isolation Guitar Cabinet ISOCAB DIY How to using Green Glue


    Randall Isolation Cab-ISO12C stock vs mod comparison:


    FAQ Mondays: ISO Cabs, Tone Woods and Rhodes Amps




    isolating MIc
    How To Make A Microphone Isolation Box For High Quality Audio Recording


    * i know that this video it imcomplte, but you grasps the idea. = :)



    mic position:

    shure:
    http://www.shure.co.uk/support_download/educational_content/microphones-basics/amplified_instruments

    howtomic:
    http://howtomic.com/
    http://howtomic.com/author/admin/page/2/


    speakers:

    basic audio (simple explanation of how the sound is divided into a loudspeaker)
    http://www.basicaudio.net/recording-your-amp.php

    Loudspeaker:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudspeaker

    gods-cab-manual: (speaker+mic position)
    http://docslide.us/documents/gods-cab-manual.html

    redwirez manual: (speaker+mic position)
    http://www.redwirez.com/ir/DialingInYourTone.pdf

    cap/cap edege/cone/cone edge
    1. Move the mic closer for MORE proximity effect and thus MORE low-end.
    2. Move the mic farther away for LESS proximity effect and thus LESS low-end.
    3. Move the mic towards the cap for definition (if it sounds too muddy).
    4. Move the mic out towards the edge of the cone if it sounds too harsh.
    5. If it sounds too bright, sometimes it'll work to leave the mic where it is and just flip it off axis. It
    will roll-off the highs and depending on the mic give it "grainy-er" sound.

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    4).........Re-amp: (using service of re-amping on net).....
    *****************************************************************************************​

    a)How does reamping online work?

    simple: Reamping is the process in which your recorded guitar track (DI), on format .WAV and send to them and....
    Reamping gives you access to the best amps on the market and, above all, their professionnal setting by a sound engineer.

    check always the f.a.q. or what they want.

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    b) videos how ON-line service of RE-amping / re-amp


    Reamping Online with Kemper - how it works?




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    c) ON-line service of RE-amping / re-amp


    Guitar reamping online:
    https://reamping-online.com/

    frozen sun audio:
    http://www.frozensunaudio.com/reamping/

    silent underground studio:
    http://www.silentundergroundstudio.com/guitar-services

    LmK music porduction: online re-amping
    http://lmkprod.com/online-audio-services/online-reamping/


    tower studio:
    http://www.towerstudio.net/reamping.html
    http://www.towerstudio.net/prices.html

    reampzone: ´´WE OFFER THE CHEAPEST GUITAR REAMPING SERVICE ONLINE!´´
    http://reampzone.com
    http://reampzone.com/prices

    wsl-studio
    http://www.wsl-studio.com/reamping/

    fix your mix:
    http://www.fixyourmix.com/


    and many more...

    also check here on audiosex: http://mainroom.pro/
    a lot of studios profesional, and home studios.
    They offer services of mix, mastering and re-amp.


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    5)............. Re-amp: some considerations: .........
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    a)
    some considerations:
    at home ´´in the box´´

    new string
    guitar clean
    hands clean = :)
    interface and wire
    especially WIRES, new or working ones, you know bad WIRE, bad sound.
    also check and clean your JACK in-put and out put
    potentiometers
    check welding pewter
    learn/practice your song, until you are sure it is the final product (song).

    equipaments:
    place treatments / speaker isolation / cab isolation
    di box
    Mic types of mic, position, edge cone, how far, how close.
    isolating MIC of room
    pedestals / supports
    pre amp/poweramp /amp
    cab
    practice, try and error, try and error.
    attention with : noise floor, gain stage,latency,PHASE/face problems, etc...

    quality:
    http://www.grebz.fr/tutorial_notes_eng.php


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    b)
    on line service:

    new string
    guitar clean
    hands clean = :)
    interface and wire
    especially WIRES, new or working ones, you now bad WIRE, bad sound.
    also check and clean your JACK in-put and out put
    potentiometers
    check welding pewter
    learn/practice your song, until you are sure it is the final product (song).
    AND....check always the f.a.q.,on his page to see what they want. (gain, type of archive, not processing, etc...)

    money to PAY :)
    internet conection

    pay ATTENTION:
    some service do with KEMPER or NEBULA etc.. NOT WITH REAL AMPS.

    some service do it WHIT REAL AMPS. (Maybe its more EXPENSIVE, and takes more time)

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    6)..................... bonus: .........
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    Recording and Mixing Electric Guitars:
    http://www.shureblog.co.uk/recording-and-mixing-electric-guitars/

    Recording & Mixing Bass Guitar:
    http://www.shureblog.co.uk/recording-mixing-bass-guitar/

    Recording Drums: Part 1 to Part 6 + others
    http://www.shureblog.co.uk/?s=Drums

    shure:
    http://cdn.shure.com/publication/upload/837/microphone_techniques_for_recording_english.pdf

    howtomic:
    http://howtomic.com/

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  3. Ash

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    Nice work, very complete! :headbang:
     
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    sorry my english is bad, but what does " what its" mean ?
     
  5. F3r

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    i am editing, to the post because i am bad english to....and my teacher its: https://translate.google.com.br.
    but i dont understand waht you ask?
    maybe : on star of the pos = what its ( now corrected to ``what its´´ re -amping ?) see step 2) of this post.
    i think it that you are asking?
    or you want to know about re-amping...
    :winker:
     
  6. Ash

    Ash Rock Star

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    Hello. I think it's "what is re-amping" and "how re-amping" or "how to re-amp"? :unsure: English is not my language too.:rofl:
     
  7. F3r

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    yeah for me to.... but if you type on : https://translate.google.com , he give the two options as goods :dunno: i will change to the most comun...
    then i fix that.
    thank ....

    fixed: Spelling, grammar, idiomatic expression. ´´orthography´´
     
  8. Ash

    Ash Rock Star

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    I've tried google translate but I don't trust it. Since, I use this:
    http://www.linguee.es/espanol-ingles
    you choose the 2 languages you want and let's go.
    Maybe this may help you besides google translate.

    :cheers:
     
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  9. Ahachez1

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    Thanks for this post man!! Answered alot of my questions watching and reading..:mates:
     
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