Maybe useful for who has problem in scales notes' recognition in any key mostly while playing on a keyboard or working in the piano roll (just by negativing the keyboard layout in C Major or A minor scale) . Black lines shows the scales' notes and white space between them the out of keys' notes. These can be applied to any root. No need to the notes or degrees memorizing for scales.
You can relate them to letters C,E, n, m.

Other scales could be done in a similar fashion.

 

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Thanks for the input, i am not the smartest around here so would u like to explain the image a bit more for me and maybe also for other people?

 

Hehe..

But the question is... do you notice that this is also a "circle"?

You have major and minor but there are 5 more that you can grab out of that.

 

Oh, and you forgot one at the end of each drawing. There should be a distance in front of the 7ths (in this case, only in the minor scale).

 

This photo simply shows which finger should be placed on which note in a keyboard. It's not an oracle of course.

 

Yes you're absolutely right but I just removed the last note (of course it's similar to the first note) due to better relating them to letters.

 

If you look at the notes of e.g. C Maj scale in a piano roll, you'd infer letters E and 4 tooth E and in the A min scale, C,E,C stuck to each other.

 

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Yes but unfortunately the keyboard is like a line not a circle while playing.

 

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Nevertheless, the notes go in circles and that's how you should think about them.

You have to include the last step (7th) or else there's no distinction on that first chart between b7 (minor scale) and 7 (major scale).

If you think a bit, they should be the same length and they aren't.

 

I just corrected it. Even though , each Major scale has a relative minor scale (like C Maj scale's notes = A min scale's notes) but starting note differs that causers a little confusion.

 

No.

The starting note that differs is not a cause for a little confusion. It is in fact the only reason why they exist.

You have the diatonic scale which is the basic major scale. When you start at any other note, you get a different mode. If you start at the 6th note, you get the minor scale.

1 - ionian (major)
2 - dorian
3 - phrygian
4 - lydian
5 - mixolydian
6 - aeolian (minor)
7 - locrian

Again, like the chords or any other thing, these become intervalic structures that you apply to ANY ROOT (R):

major: R 2 3 4 5 6 7
dorian: R 2 b3 4 5 6 b7
minor: R 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7


Which means that there's no reason to be thinking of C major when what you're really working on is A minor. If you want C minor, you just apply the minor scale to the C root.

 

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here we go again...

 

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I like your thinking, and your diagram works, however I think it could be improved a little.
I think you got the major scale correct first time, ie it need no be corrected.
However the minor scale needed a little addition.
In my rudimentary understanding of scales I would suggest this is more accurate.

 

Both needed the addition for consistency (ie, to close the octave). Both have to have the same length.

The other option would be to remove the last bar BUT leaving the overhang after the b7 in the minor scale.

Edit: Hadn't seen your corrected diagram.

 

Major scale = Root, tone, tone, semi tone, tone, tone, tone, semi tone
Minor scale = Root, tone, semi tone, tone tone, semi tone, tone, tone

 

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As you can clearly see now, in my amended version of your diagram, they are exactly the same length.
You had the major scale correct in your first diagram.
Anyway, I like the way this diagram works.
I am going to print one out for my children.
I may even attempt the harmonic minor, and other scales!
Pentatonic major and minor will work too.
And then there are the blues scales with flat 5 and flat seven.
So I do think this format is a good one.
Well done.

 

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I prefer to visualize the intervals as a formula on top of the "keys" (given the diagram) instead of a sequence of tone/semi and I tell people to do that early on because I feel that it makes people relate to the differences much faster and in a more direct comparable way.

Anyways, I don't teach keyboards so.. take it for what it's worth.