How to memorize the Interval chart like multiplication table

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  1. duskwings

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    u understant what u want, which is close to nothing, i wonder who s more stupid, if u or foster
     
  2. foster911

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    I said that I am the most stupid guy here so please don't call kouros any thing and no one does not have any right to call you any thing. We are just talking.
     
  3. kouros

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    This is exactly what is holding you back from understanding. You keep thinking about the key signature/tonal framework as if that shit were the intervals themselves... THEY ARE FUCKING NOT!!!

    And the answer to both question is YES, because intervals are distances... which means they are ABSOLUTE and not dependant on key signature. Is this so hard to understand???

    P.S. No, you wouldn't call it double augmented fifth, that would be the description of the degree (within a context that needed the 5 reference and subsequent alteration). The interval is a major 6th. Probably you won't get this either. not because you cant understand the difference..only because of you being stubborn as hell.
     
  4. foster911

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    Learning music in a dirty manner. I think this is happening for the first time in the web.:)
     
  5. duskwings

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    those r not key signatures, when i say G sharp i mean the note G sharp, not the key of G sharp, can u tell the difference between a key signature and a note with an accidental?it seems not
     
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    no! if i have wanted to receive major sixth as an answer, i would have said A flat and F,and it s got nothing to do with key signature,that s what u don t want to understand
     
  7. kouros

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    Well, if you meant the note G#... then that's a really basic question and you got both answers wrong. Your musical knowledge as a really shaky foundation if you don't know that that the answer to both questions is "yes" and perfect fourth/major sixth. It puzzles me how you make those questions, really...
     
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    ANd the answer,guess, is NO,because according to your moronic way of thinking since they r absolute and u learn them with numbers ,he can t answer these questions unless he decides practice using notes the notes names together with the proper accidentals
     
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    Once and for all (I hope, or else I'll never teach again)...

    Interval = Distance

    Distance between the note Ab/G# and F (in semitones): 9

    9 semitones corresponds to which interval?

    MAJOR SIXTH!!
     
  10. kouros

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    You can't answer the questions because you don't know what to do if someone throws notes at you without telling you which key they want them in. I imagine your brain exploding with atonal or even modal music.

    Just because you can't understand something it doesn't mean others can't.
     
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    yes, maybe on your short bus Csharp is not the perfect fourth of G sharp
     
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    Fuck, u really know me well
     
  13. kouros

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    As you can imagine, it would be VERY hard for me to read or write music if I didn't know all these rules that you think I don't know.

    I've been telling you that there's more to it and that music isn't confined to that particular view or dogma. Still, you think I don't know shit about this... Hilarious thread.
     
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    I told you the "NO" is wrong. Simply because the answer is "YES".

    Unless you're the one answering and no one gives you a key. :rofl:
     
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    they are harmonically different, because F is a sixth degree from A flat,and A flat is just an A flat,not a note in a specific key.And if i consoder it the sixth degree counting from A flat, it means that i have a fifth degree,which is E flat.But if i call that F an E sharp,it means that i consider it a double augmented fifth degree,and it has a different function when it s associated to Aflat,because although they are the same note.athe major sixth and the double augmented fifth are supposed to have different uses
     
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    [​IMG]

    See? These are I N T E R V A L S. They aren't dependent on a key, unlike S C A L E D E G R E E S.

    C O N T E X T.... C O N T E X T....
     
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    For the last time, that only applies to a TONAL/KEY SIGNATURY context. Out of that, doesn't mean shit. Look at the amount of times you wrote "degree" in your example and remember what I've been saying all along.

    If you're working within a tonal center/key signature, then that shit totally matters or else your staff won't make any sense and the degree functions will be very hard to decipher. I've already said this many times but hey, one more try.. lol

    Out of that context, distances are just... distances, intervals. They are measured by numbers and applied to the intervalic formulas, very popular among jazz and classical analysis (albeit in a different way from jazz).
     
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    because u think i need the key to determine an interval from a given note?or that in a key ,if i need to find an iterval, i m so dumb that i cant put an accidental to create it if it doesnt belong the key
     
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    it s useless
     
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    No, because you keep insisting on the importance of enharmonics when the subject is intervals.

    Enharmonics mean ZERO to intervals. Enharmonics mean EVERYTHING within tonal/key signature workflows (staff), got it? That's why they exist in the first place!!

    Maybe you got it, now you're just trying to get around and pick from another angle so that you don't have to give in... lol
     
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