Producers & Sound Engineers Behind The Artists We Love​

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Noob Corner​

 

And this is why people laugh at EDM.

Rap is known for this bs too. 99% of the artists most people would know never produced a thing in their life. What a scam.

 

I remember 2 rap gentlemen (I won't mention names) who sat with me in front of a SSL G series and spent 3 hours having their pictures taken and doing numerous dress changes mainly to satisfy their sponsors and i was asked many times "which is the master fader and what knobs are mostly used?"

Long story short after the photo shoot i never seen them again but heard they did the same thing again 12 months later elsewhere *yes*

 

You guys made my day with these statements! I always bite my tongue when topics like this come up. It's funny that many rap and RnB songs actually get that great sound from old dudes like Dave Pensado and Tony Maserati!

 

The interesting thing about the early house/techno/rave scene was that it was about the music, the party and the public, not about icons/big names.

Now it's the other way around, the public wants 'big names' but doesn't care they are just empty shells.

Steve Aoki probably doesn't know the difference between a compressor and a vacuum cleaner.

 

You couldn't be more right.
I saw binary finary play a live set a few years ago and they were terrible showmen.
But their music was incredible.

 

The funniest is when such ppl make tutorials about music production
"Hey ghost producer ! After you finish my track, can you show me some little tricks for my next Computer Music production tips ? And remember to clean my laptop from warez, too. Last time, i had big troubles"

The saddest is when they simply steal from unknown ppl, like Wil.i.am and Timbaland. They are well know for that. It is like stealing money from a beggar's hat on the floor. Those ppl are big a**holes with no moral.

 

This guy Niles from "The Cataracs", which is under KSHMR name right now and produces mainly EDM for the moment(ghost prod. as well), has made a lot of R&B/Pop/Hip-Hop songs in the past. Such as SnoopDog's "Sweat"(which David Guetta remixed it later):

..or Enrique Iglesias / Pitbull's:

..or Sean Paul's "Other Side Of Love" :

..or this one:

..and now he made stuff like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I41CX0RdmPQ&spfreload=10

but the only place he's mentioned on this song is just in its ASCAP details.

 

Such sweeping generalisations about Hip Hop on this thread its almost laughable...

I know literally hundreds of Hip Hop producers in the game and yes most dont know how to you a vintage analog desk because they use MPC's ASR-10's laptops etc. Why would they need to know how to use a 64 track desk. As for the photos thats just studio shit...every studio ive been in ive had a photo next to the desk, its what the fans expect sadly. Sitting in front of ya laptop filled with cracked software dont make good promo.

I would say that Hip Hop has the least amount of ghost production, forget the pop charts shit, that dont count as every genere is bastardized and exploited by the industry but underground Hip Hop im telling you, using ghost producers would be career suicide.

Fuck EDM tho

 

Sebastian Ingrosso worked on Kylie Minogue's track. He also co-worked with Steve Angello on "Will.i.am - This Is Love ft. Eva Simons"

 

I have no doubt you know hundreds of Hip Hop producers in the game just as some courtesy, may i suggest when you have conversations with them try and not say "64 track desk" it would sound better if you said the correct terminology like '64 channels'

Not having a go at you just trying to help out.

 

There's a difference between making a beat and making a song/record.

 

Come on, don't romanticize the early techno days.
Without Ralf Hildebeutel there would have been not a single Sven Väth record. Without Klaus Jankuhn, the label Low Spirit would not have been what it turned out to be.

And as a general reminder: please don't equate edm with all of electronic dance music. This cashcow bullshit crap music really is a disgrace to the rich culture and scene we've built around techno, house and trance for the past 30 years.

 

The article is very misleading and over emphasises the term ghost producing when really it's just about giving credit where it is due (for the majority anyway). From writing to mixing or whatever the input, that don't mean the whole track was put on a plate for them and they don't deserve any credit themselves.

I know some of the mentioned names or "brands" in the list are actually useless but hey this is not exclusive to edm or rap as mentioned in above replies, this applies to the whole music industry what ever the style or genre.

 

What I meant about Rap is that 50 cent never produced a thing. Biggie never produced a thing. Etc. They have someone else do it. In Industrial for example you produce your own music. I've never heard of Front 242, Front Line Assembly, Dead When I Found Her or Velvet Acid Christ having someone ghost produce their own music. Someone else may master but they produce. Period.

 

I think when It comes to hip hop/trap music It's not necessarily "ghost producing" but simply an engineer taking the acapella and beat and giving it the finishing touch. I know of many producers who fully produce amazing beats on their own, but the rappers usually have a dedicated engineer to finish the job when it comes to mixing and mastering the vocals with the beat.

 

But yes, it's ridiculous to say 50 cent was a producer if he never did produce anything. What a joke.

 

Maybe I should have said "this can apply" instead of "this applies". Of course artists produce by them self and even self master, or can be the sole input from start to finish in any given genre.

 

couldn't agree more with this. I can't stand when people try to sell their "beats". They couldn't produce, structure, arrange, or mix a song to save their life, but they'll call themselves producers.

 

Calling you a "producer" will get you money from OTHER artists.
So ppl with few knowledge of production try their best to appear like producers, give the real job to a ghost producer...and put their name on final production.

It is like this in almost all genres, apart some (Cat said it) like industrial (they cross/remix each others, and credit their names).
It is just a matter of money. Take a picture near an SSL, and you will get ppl asking you to produce their titles. Even if you don't know where is the master channel
Or name your website IndustryKits, with pictures of "producers" in the background. You can now sell your Farfisa trap sounds.

You want real hip hop sound without ghost producing ? Take that (with a touch of humor)