How to get upper harmonics from an Bass Sound?

Discussion in 'how to make "that" sound' started by AMERICUH, Feb 10, 2015.

  1. AMERICUH

    AMERICUH Kapellmeister

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    Hi guys,

    I'm just working on a Track where I got some stabs, which are very deep about 100-150 Hz .. and my Subbass gives them no chance to hear them at all .. at the moment I tried with PS22 Stereo Spreader to spread the sound thats its not that mono to hear the difference from the Mono-Subbass-Area .. it works really well!

    Are there any plugins that add upper harmonics, just like Lowender does with adding more Harmonics to the Bass area?
    I need something like this just in the other direction (Mid-High Section)!

    Other recommendations are welcome !


    Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. globalpeace

    globalpeace Noisemaker

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    Use Tape Saturation.
     
  4. Studio 555

    Studio 555 Producer

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    @ AMERICUH,

    To add 'artificial' Harmonics, use an 'Exciter'... :wink:


    By the way, and even if not the main goal of your Request, if you use some 'Synth VSTi Instruments' from time to time, 'Additive Synthesis' is the best type of 'Synthesis' to add 'Upper Harmonics' ('Partials') to any kind of Sound. *yes*
     
  5. Mostwest

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    Waves MaxxBass
     
  6. SineWave

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    If a sound doesn't work in the mix, change it. Better than to try "repairing" it. :wink:
     
  7. Evorax

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    Waves MaxxBass, Waves RBass, Tape Sat. , stuff like that.
     
  8. Evorax

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    He's looking for improvement, not for "repairing". There's always room for improvement, especially if his vision regarding what he wants to achieve with that bass is a great one. Cheers. :mates:
     
  9. Studio 555

    Studio 555 Producer

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    At a first glance, and above all, if I well understand what 'AMERICUH' is looking for... is to add some 'Upper Harmonics' to an existing Sound (by essence, rather 'Low'), hence my surprise about some suggestions as can be :

    'Waves MaxxBass'
    When you need to seriously pump up your lows, choose MaxxBass®, the bass enhancement technology used on more hit records and major motion pictures than any other. MaxxBass® uses psycho-acoustics to calculate precise harmonics that are related to the fundamental tones of sound. When these harmonics are combined, it creates the effect of lower, deeper frequencies.

    'Waves Renaissance Bass'
    Renaissance Bass delivers richer, deeper lows that sound great on any system. Using Waves patented MaxxBass® psycho-acoustic technology, Renaissance Bass makes tightening up the low end easier than ever, thanks to its simple, intuitive controls.

    And this seems to me (but maybe I'm wrong ? :dunno: ) that's exactly the opposite of what he's looking for...

     
  10. Davey Jones

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    Upper harmonics in the high and mid areas: Multiband comp/exciter

    Y'all forgot Waves Lo Air for that picture-frame rattling bass.
     
  11. pimpdrop

    pimpdrop Ultrasonic

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    Parallel Distortion. I do it all the time. When mixed subtly and done right, can add that missing upper harmonic magic while keeping the essence of the original bass sound.

    Try with different distortion and tape plugins till you find one that works best for your sound.
     
  12. Evorax

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    :rofl: Really?

    [​IMG]

    That yellow curve it's actually the processed side while the blue one is the original signal. That 250hz side does it looks "the opposite"? i don't think so. :mates:
     
  13. Catalyst

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    Saturation, Distortion would be a good way to go about it.

    Waves Maxx Bass will add upper harmonics while cutting the lows. It simply gives the impression that the bass is deeper.
     
  14. Dazeon

    Dazeon Ultrasonic

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    Or use Harmonic Adder to add harmonics to fill gaps between the overtones.
     
  15. Resonance

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    SPL TwinTube , another one to throw into the mix
     
  16. Baxter

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    How about layering and/or filtering? You are making an awesome sandwich, you know.
    Distortion can be useful if you don't want to layer, but can be quite restricted on the low-end. You can distort/saturate/overdrive the mids and highs (layers) individually to get a really good sound.
     
  17. mild pump milk

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    I had the same. Try Ozone's Exciter, use it on sub-bass. You can adjust "amount" and "mix" and type "warm/tube/tape/dual triode/retro/triode". You can achieve it by adding even or/and odd harmonics. Not oversaturate it :bleh:
    Try saturators, exciters, "warmers", distortions (they are harder/harsher, not recommended) etc.
     
  18. zero-frag

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    +1
     
  19. AMERICUH

    AMERICUH Kapellmeister

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    Wow, I'm overwhelmed !!

    So many replies, thank you very much !

    I will try now all the techniques & plugins you ALL suggested.

    :wink: :grooves:
     
  20. Rolma

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    I think Ill use them too. It comes really in handy this post, precisely I'm working in a layout of different basses arranged in a call-answer fashion that might benefit from some tonal distinction.
     
  21. Baxter

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    Sometimes you just need a simple low-shelving EQ to turn down the really low frequencies (which also eat alot of headroom), to bring out the lower mids, mids, etc. ;)
    People generally forget this simple but powerful subtractive tool, and generally think in additive terms.
     
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