Make simple VST effect

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  1. toni_aguirre

    toni_aguirre Newbie

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    I don't know where I read that Dada Life's Sausage fattener is actually a chain of plugins. Is there a way to create a simple VST with some knobs acting as macros that can do the same as a chain of plugins? For example, in bitwig or ableton you can make an Effect chain, load some plugins and in Bitwig you can map some parameters. Can it be done exporting such chain as an independent VST effect?
     
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  3. Studio 555

    Studio 555 Producer

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    @ Toni_aguirre,

    For that you must to use Programs like 'SynthEdit' or 'SynthMaker'... *yes*

    That kind of Programs allows you to create and chain several Modules (either Pre-Fab, or custom ones) with all the desired/needed Functions/Options,... , then to simply 'Export' ('Save it') as 'VST' Plugin... *yes*


    For reference :

    'SynthEdit' Homepage

    'DSPRobotics' Homepage
    P.S: It seems that 'SynthMaker' has merged with 'FlowStone' (hence that Name Link instead *yes* )
     
  4. Mostwest

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    Dada Life said in "In studio with dada life" that was a chain of plugin that they was using a lot
     
  5. gravity

    gravity Noisemaker

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    you could try fl studio's patcher. it's a little bit complicated maybe but you can do a lot with it once you get the hang of it. they make minihost modular too that pretty much does the same thing and it's free once you sign up for a free account on the imageline website
     
  6. junh1024

    junh1024 Rock Star

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    If you wanna make a VST effect usable in multiple DAWs, you could try using MAX by Cycling74 (How to export VST seems simple enough, but you'll prolly encounter some more hitches.)

    Else, if you wanna get into VST with C/C++, learn that, and you could start by modding the mdaVST codes here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mda-vst/files/mda-vst/mda-vst-src%20100214/ ( mda-vst-src-2010-02-14.zip ), which is what I did. Suggested reading: VST 2/3 SDK.

    There's also Plugue bidule & other modular VSTs which allow you to make a chain of FX from building blocks & save those chains to be reloaded in a single FX instance.
     
  7. toni_aguirre

    toni_aguirre Newbie

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    But I don't want to use Flowstone modules (already tried it), I would like to use already existing plugins. For example, chain Waves Aphex Aural Exciter, Fxpansion Maul and Softube Saturation Knob and make some knobs to control different parameters of these plugins. Then export as a unique VST with its own GUI and with the same effect without having to load each plugin individually.
     
  8. Studio 555

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    I perfectly understand what you're looking for, and which is by the way, the main purpose of your Request...
    UNFORTUNATELY, as long that you'd like to continue to use several VST Plugins from different Developers, the only solution for you (as for many of us, DAWs Users !) is to continue to create (and save) your own preferred 'Plugin Chains' within each of the used DAWs, then reload these when needed... *yes*

    A last solution could be this stated by 'Junh1024' :
    Learn 'C++' Language (certainly the most appropriate and powerful 'Coding Language' for creating high-quality VST Plugins *yes* ), but if you're a somewhat newbie or beginner in that field... it will be a really tedious task for you !!! :( hence my suggestion of using Programs done for that purpose, even if these could be, in some sense, a bit less performant than pure 'C++' VST Plugins... *yes*
     
  9. Mostwest

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    i'm interested to this, let's say i have a plugin with multiple effects, is possible to create a vst (maybe au aswell) with only 1 knob wich controll only one paramenter of the previous vst?
     
  10. toni_aguirre

    toni_aguirre Newbie

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    In some DAWs (Bitwig can for sure, I think Ableton can with Max4Live) you can map almost all parameters with macro knobs. In Bitwig you can also modulate such macros with LFOs, steppers or audio
     
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    Thanks but the thread is about create a vst not try Ableton or Bitshit
     
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    i don't want to dig into vst from scratch, i'm asking if it possible to create a quick interface using a vst already there to create a one knob vst (yes like Wave One Knob series)
     
  14. junh1024

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    Yes, programming is hard, it's not the most easy way, but it is a way. If you program a VST without a GUI, it will default to a Generic UI which most DAWs should support (I've tested this. The mda series http://mda.smartelectronix.com/ has a generic UI for most plugs, see if those work for you). These look like this in old versions of cubase

    [​IMG]

    There exists various libraries like Juce and VSTGUI for making VST GUIs, but those are another thing to learn on top of C++,VST SDK, etc. There is also a GUI VST GUI builder http://www.niallmoody.com/apps/vstgui-builder but that's a bit dated and needs effort to make it work with current versions of VST SDK.

    Another method, probably easier, but still involves some scripting, is to get into JSFX programming. Go download http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ which includes ReaJS VST. It includes hundreds of FX as text files, which you can copy & modify. AGain, they will have a generic UI & and code which looks like this:

    [​IMG]

    (or if you use REAPER, that loads JS natively)
     
  15. Vince Bramich

    Vince Bramich Ultrasonic

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    check out blue cat audio's, patch work.
    easy enough to find.
    you can load various effects in and adjust the modulation between them to get the desired effect.
    and of course you can save that preset for next time.
    It's the same thing as building an audio effect rack but a bit easier.
    Joshua Casper built an effect rack to emulate sausage fattner.
    you can download it at joshuacasper.com for free

    good luck
     
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