Sound Engine Improvement

Discussion in 'Studio' started by globalpeace, Jan 14, 2015.

  1. globalpeace

    globalpeace Noisemaker

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    So i love the Logic Pro X Sound Engine, But my main DAW is Fl Studio. Is there anyway i can get the same audio quality on my FL Studio? (P.S: I use Bootcamp on my Macbook Pro retina, No External Audio Interface, i use the inbuilt ASIO Latest Drivers) I'm planning to buy the Yamaha HS8 soon , So Will that improve ? or What should i do, to get the Rich sound quality in FL?
     
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  3. globalpeace

    globalpeace Noisemaker

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    I Know Everything is in the Mix. But There is indeed a difference in the audio in both of the DAW.
     
  4. Davey Jones

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    How are you exporting in FL?
     
  5. Mostwest

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    Check mixer resampling quality and also export resampling quality. Set to the highest settings. I have used both i can say that LPX stock plugin sounds great and very natural, the eq is the best i have ever had (only fabfilter pro q2 with natural phase can match it). The sound engine and the quality of LPX is the same of other daw like Studio One, Ableton and Cubase that i've tried.
     
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    There are differences, but not in quality, more in character, FL is an almost unnoticeable bit more punchy and synthetic making it subconsciously more favourable to a lot of EDM producers.

    I think what youre experiencing is the OS audio drivers. Apples OEM drivers are far superior to Windows. Using an audio interface should level the playing field a lot more.

    Remember you may be listening to ASIO in your daw but once you export and play it back in a media player youre using Windows drivers.

    This is where all the "My mix sounds good in my daw but bad when exported" threads come from, other than export settings.
     
  7. Mykal

    Mykal AudioP2P

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    All DAW audio engines sound the same and since the O.P. likes FL studio. Here is a good read


    Audio engines and DAWS
     
  8. Mostwest

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    Some Daws can run a 64 bit audio processing engine. Every daw sound the same? No. Crank up master channel by +10 dB over the digital 0 in FL,do the same things in Studio One, they sound the same? No.
     
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    Mykal AudioP2P

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    No sonic difference between 32 and 64 bit audio processing. And yes they do sound the same. Please do not confuse 64 bit processing with 64 bit floating Audio engine. For instance you mentioned Studio One, Both the 32 bit and 64 bit version use 64 bit float. I'm not really in the mood to type a whole fucking paper on it all with a bunch of links to the scientific facts. Google is your friend and your friend will tell you are wrong!!!! The facts are facts!!! Mathematical precision is a real thing... there's no question that doubling the word length of memory address spaces the audio engine uses for internal processing will improve that precision but that has NOTHING to do with sound quality of the Audio Engine as both 32 bit and 64 bit computers can use 64 bit float. The sound quality between the different DAWS is very subjective and over rated.This is the kinda shit they teach in any good music school. I really suggest that many of you should do some research before posting in this thread because if it's not me then I am sure someone else in the know will come along and will destroy any ideas of 1 DAW audio engine SOUNDING better than another. The link I posted above pretty much explains it all. READ IT!!
     
  10. mono

    mono Audiosexual

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    last time :wow:

    http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=45272


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G-lN8vWm3m0


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BYTlN6wjcvQ
     
  11. Mostwest

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    On the manual refers to "single-precision floating point" and "double-precision floating point" mixed mode audio engine wich can be choose from the option pannel. Can you hear some difference from 32 and 64 probably not, are the same? No. Import a 32 bit file in studio one and then bounce it, the 2 files are the same. If you do the same things in FL you don't get the exact same file after the bounce due to FL resampling engine. I know because i tested. Can we hear difference probably not, but technical they aren't 100% the same sound.
    The same preset init in Sylenth is different from S1 and Fl while using the same midi filr.
     
  12. Mykal

    Mykal AudioP2P

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    The re-sampling algorithms that each DAW uses has nothing to do with the Audio engine
     
  13. rhythmatist

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    It's not the DAW. You can still make an excellent recorded piece of music with a 2-track tape machine. It's how you use it and how you mix it.
     
  14. Evorax

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    Lol, that made my day. Punch comes from the mixing stage, not from the sound engine's character. Let me guess, if i want my one-shot drums samples more punchy, i just import them into FL without adding any plugin, export them, then voila, they sound punchier? :rofl:

    No offense though, it just sounded funny to me.
     
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    Can you bounce them for us please so we can hear them? make sure you crank up the highest export quality on both daws and give us the samples so we can do the phase-cancellation test and see if they cancel each other out. If they do, then it means you got misleaded by the placebo effect. :dunno:
     
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    have a listen to Studio One's Audio Engine ;)
     
  17. korte1975

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    i just recorded my fart in 8 bit/11khz -> sounds analog
     
  18. globalpeace

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    I use 64 point sync in mixer resampling, as well as while exporting.
     
  19. globalpeace

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    I think mostwest is confused, In fl studio using lower setting in the mixer resampling settings and exporting it in a different resampling setting may sounds bad? I'm not sure, so you be the judge, maybe he had the bass boost, surround sound , eq option checked in windows audio settings, so It sounds different while using windows playback
     
  20. globalpeace

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    Can you export the audio ? From both the daw? and upload it? For testing it.
     
  21. globalpeace

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    Guys, it just sounds different to me, maybe that's just me? I'm not saying that fl has low quality sounding, Dyro's Production are EPIC, Example : when I play a song in vlc in windows, it sounds dull and boring, but in mac using vlc it sounds great. Maybe this has something to do with the OS playback ?
     
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