Any tips on modern pop music?

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  1. Garamondo Furbish

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    sorry, I checked the archive, its been deleted... oh well...
     
  2. Melodic Reality

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    Pop music is broad term, it can be anything these days, which is a good thing, you can exploit some genre you are passionate about and just do more focused to the point rendition of it, something that will catch listener from the get go and give him enough to chew later on.
     
  3. The King

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    Today's pop music is different from old pop. In the new world of music, pop music has to be weird. Have different styles. The goal in new pop music is not the music itself and not following the old rules of music and using traditional elements of music.

    Pop music now must be something the listener has never heard before. It's hard to explain because we are used to judging with traditional concepts of music, while pop music should be something that gives a sense of modernity to young listeners and gives them the feeling that they have entered new stages of life.

    Americans know modernization very well, but other countries and other cultures have not yet entered these different phases of music.

    In general, in pop you should not make music and try not to impress the listener with your musical talents and experiences. You have to create a confusing atmosphere that serves no purpose. Aiming doesn't work in pop music. Today's pop music listener wants you to just entertain him and if he feels like you're trying to give him advice, he won't listen to your music at all.

    It is difficult for Europeans to understand modern American pop music because the goals and views of Europeans and Americans in the field of music are different.

    If the conditions and requirements of American pop music are not understood correctly, the possibility of success in this field is almost zero.
     
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  4. The King

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    America is a country of immigration. They are present from all different countries and cultures. In such a society, it is not possible to choose only one specific goal and pursue it. This cultural diversity has caused that no culture can dictate its cultural ideals to other people.

    The goal is usually proposed to direct different movements towards a specific point, but the cultural diversity in America, which has been formed based on profit and economic interests, makes it practically impossible to magnify specific goals.

    You can see this aimlessness clearly in most of their music. All these media and virtual space, which may seem illogical to many people in other countries, is a normal thing in America because people there have learned to live in pure aimlessness and mix different cultures together. These compounds have no meaning in other countries.
     
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  5. Lad Impala

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    Thank you for your valuable input @Melodic Reality

    That got me thinking of another element a lot pop music have now, which is a hook right from the start.
    Most people won't give a new song by a unknown artist more than a 5 second chance


    :rofl: you're funny @The King. Even though i do agree with much of what you said.
    thank you too
     
  6. Kate Middleton

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    some tips..
    layer your drums and percussion
    add more delay to your synths and less reverb
    i use mostly nexus and kontakt for pop.. i would say i layer alot in kontakt plugin synths, basses, pads on top of each other
    the bassline should be one layer and mostly in mono or as small as possible in the stereo
    use pads underneath the bass notes to add support and motion to the track
    stack and layer your vocals
    you can use urban or hip hop drums for pop most of them works (sonic specialists sample provider, or sounds in hd) check out big fish audio website they got so much pop sample libraries out there
    add some effects for your production.. you can use nexus fx section or maybe some vengeance samples (i rarely use vengeance anymore)
    guitar sounds should be real recording.. they sound way better when you record them real acoustic or electric... plugins really dont do it
    try to pan your percussion instruments left and right
    try to add plucked melodies beneath your main riff
     
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    i agree. 90s pop had more orchestra instruments.. more guitars.. modern pop is more synth more electronic and less guitar.. more modern lol
     
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  9. The King

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    Instrumentation has changed but I was talking about mentality and paradigm shift.

    In today's pop music, it is assumed that all conditions at all levels of society are at their best, and in pop music you just have to appreciate and thank them.

    In today's pop music, there is no desire to change anything, and the job of composers, singers and all other people is just flattery.
     
  10. The King

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    These are the names of Billie Eilish's songs and albums. From their names, it is clear what the lyrics of their songs are.

    Songs:
    !!!!!!!
    Burn
    The 30th
    8
    All the Good Girls Go to Hell
    Bad Guy
    Bellyache
    Billie Bossa Nova
    Bitches Broken Hearts
    Bored
    Bury a Friend
    Come Out and Play
    Copycat
    Everybody Dies
    Everything I Wanted
    Fingers Crossed
    Getting Older
    Goldwing
    Goodbye
    Halley's Comet
    Happier Than Ever
    Hostage
    Hotline Bling
    I Didn't Change My Number
    I Love You
    I don't wanna be you anymore
    Ilomilo
    Listen Before I Go
    Lo Vas a Olvidar
    Lost Cause
    Lovely
    Male Fantasy
    My Boy
    My Future
    My Strange Addiction
    NDA
    No Time to Die
    Not My Responsibility
    Ocean Eyes
    Overheated
    Oxytocin
    Party Favor
    She's Broken
    Six Feet Under
    Sunny
    Therefore I Am
    TV
    Watch
    What Was I Made For?
    When I Was Older
    When the Party's Over
    Wish You Were Gay
    Xanny
    You Should See Me in a Crown
    Your Power

    Albums:
    When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?
    Guitar Songs
    Don't Smile at Me
    Happier Than Ever
    Thirteen Reasons Why
    None
    When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go
    No Time to Die
    Everything, Everything
    One World: Together at Home
    Barbie the Album

    Ask her listeners why they like this singer and her songs, They don't have even one convincing answer in their pocket. This is the space that I said. Neither these singers nor their composers know what they are doing, nor do their listeners know why they are listening to these songs.

    Only produce a number of meaningless stories and feed them to their listeners. Such things can only be written in America.
     
  11. The King

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    Imagine the costs from the moment these songs came to the minds of their writers until they reach the listeners.

    Some people have been hired by music companies to write the lyrics of the songs and give them to the musicians to make songs for them, and the whole cost of the studio, singer and various executive agents has been spent. Then, contracts of millions of dollars have been signed for broadcasting these songs on television, radio, internet, etc. All the plane tickets have been paid for the presence of the singer and her band in different cities. A lot of money has been spent on the permission of the stadiums and concert venues. Many people have been busy preparing halls and lighting and establishing security, etc. A lot of money has been spent on demos, advertisements, make-up, etc. The listeners have spent a lot of money to buy tickets and attend these places to dance for two hours and hold and shake mobile phones and repeat the meaningless texts written by some writers with the singer.

    Songs that had problems from the beginning ... All these turnovers and human factors for production and consumption of nothing.
     
  12. Lad Impala

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    hey kate!
    those are good too thankss!!

    i should definitely do more layering
     
  13. Sacculus

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    I like to say you need to DL the Charli Puth Monthly tutorial we have on stock avaible and in YT look at all streams from Ian Kirkpatrik
    You will regret if you don't already know. Full of ideas ... :woot:
     
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  14. The King

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    These techniques do not make music popular.

    Popularization of music has nothing to do with the producers and techniques used, etc.

    The factors of power and wealth decide to make a music or a singer popular based on their material and non-material interests.

    I was waiting for someone to mention how to make contact with the centers of wealth and power. How to communicate with them? I don't think that waiting until thousands of thousands of songs are uploaded to YouTube, and the power and decision-making centers see and support you and you become a popular singer, works anymore.

    The economy of music is always flowing secretly between investors and music producers, etc. Identify these centers and increase the popularity of yourself and your music through them.

    Otherwise, aimless productions and uploading them to YouTube and other music platforms will only increase followers. Followers have no role in making music popular. You should correspond with investors in the field of music and get their opinions. And they make you and your music popular by investing in you.
     
  15. Lad Impala

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    thanks for the recommendation @Sacculus !
    will check their videos out for sure
     
  16. ELJUNTADERO2022

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    Simple: start with the chorus, catchy melodies u must have.
     
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    Step 1: Sell your soul
    Step 2: Profit
     
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    To whom? Where are they?
     
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    Don't worry bro I knew this piews and don't want to ask more for nothing, better make a carrier in drug trafiking (edit: Music represent 100x less money then drug international estimations of economy) than doing the exact expections as they need and for what at the end of the sublime journey?
    I don't threw dog food to dogs
     
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    Unfortunately...

    This 17 billion dollars is distributed only among a few people.
     
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