How do I find a bassline, that fits? What's the secret? (Melodic Techno)

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  1. Garamondo Furbish

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    basically the bass line follows the kick drum. watch the video I posted earlier.
    its not that hard. match your bass to the beats, then pick a bass sound that goes with what you are trying to create, rinse repeat.
     
  2. The King

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    Her problem is not related to rhythm. Her question is about other aspects of theory.:thumbsup:
     
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    Of course, if someone whose ears are being trained, knows what he's trained.
    Have you ever asked yourself who are the people who wrote those notes?
    solfeggio guys are among the lesser-known people in music. This has a reason. Even if they read a piece for a thousand years, they will never understand how that piece was written.
     
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    There are billions of ears on the planet from different musical cultures, but why do they never help people to make a good song. Even if those ears are trained, they will not be able to do anything special. The ear is an auxiliary device, not the main one.

    In most musical cultures, the ear is considered adequate and as you can see nothing great comes out from them.
     
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    @Joe Taco Posting warez links here (even from sister site) is prohibited.

    But as someone who no one approves of me here, I give you a piece of advice:
    These tools are created by musically illiterate people who have just little bit of coding knowledge. Do not trust these tools at all. These tools do not help but mislead you.
     
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    Yeah, that must be it. No chance I'm just a beginner who has a question
     
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    Sounds interesting, I'll try it, thanks!
     
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    @MusicTurtle
    You look so much like my cousin. I don't want you to be misled.:sad:
    Please don't use those tools.:bow:
     
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    i have another idea:

    if you use Nexus 4, just load any bass preset you like from there, the first one you pick, the first one you will stick with.
    the challenge is now to stick with that preset and care only making it working in terms of the other elments, which you add afterwards: Kick, drums, stabs and maybe a pad.

    the idea is center the bass sound and the bass melody and create the other elements around it.

    there is also a certain appeal to compose only with a piano sound for all non drum elments.
     
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  12. The King

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    This is the most important part of your sentences, which happens to be OP's question, but how?
    Random methods are usually highly welcomed by producers because in terms of notes they don't know what they want and what they're doing.
     
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    i think the problem is that there are to many possibilities due to having to many samples, presets, to many plugins ... even to many construction midi clips sometimes, which damage the inner flow of ideas ... sometimes.

    Also if starting out, you basically want to much, think you can write and compose #1 hits in a week and sound as good as everybody, which had released for a longer time.

    yes sometimes people are often lost and knowing what they want as an idea, sound design wise and even how the notes flow will look.

    therefore reduction of possibilities will be a good idea.

    (as i wrote before, there are days, which simply hold no ideas and with all the tricks, you are stuck on writers block, its normal, even long time producers have this problem ... they just learn how to work around it better than we do.)
     
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    Sorry about the link but I stand by Melody Sauce 2 just posted yesterday on sister site! If you're doing House, Techno or any type of dance music, this will give you ideas and inspiration which sounds like what you and many people struggle with, including myself sometimes. If it was easy, we would all be Superstars!
    Also, I agree with “mino45" about “Scale Mode” in Ableton Live and other tools available nowadays that make things simple. He has some really good points. You don’t really need to learn music theory anymore with the tools available today. One last note, remember that in dance music, the “groove” is the essence of what makes people dance and it can be found in the bass-line or the drums which is pivotal when making dance music. You’ll know you’ve got a groove when you start to feel your body moving!
     
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    I know what you mean! I have that always with tracks like KAS:ST & Gordo - Leaving Earth
    for example.
     
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    Every great theory musician has learned solfege you moron. It's mandatory. Any thoroughly trained musician in theory will tell you that but you know NONE. Do you even know why they teach it mandatorily as part of theory? :trolls::deep_facepalm: You are an idiot. Talk to someone else. I feel dumber for reading what you think you know.
     
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    You're wrong! Solfege is worthless! Because music isn't even real. That's a fact, Sextus Empiricus already exposed this in his "Adversus Musicos". There's no way a musician could even exist, much less make music using just their ears, you hear me? This whole thread is based on insanity, there's no such instrument called "bass". Trust me, theory is the way for you to understand the music of the spheres! That's the true music.

    (Foster impersonation attempt).
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    Basically what Articstorm says - it's a fast way to get ideas.
    https://audiosex.pro/threads/how-do...ecret-melodic-techno.75052/page-4#post-769580
    Although looking for basslines the patch's sound might not inspire, the sequence might.
    And I happened to choose Nexus because I was just going through Melodic Techno & Melodic Techno 2 .... because I just found out I was missing those and downloaded them... because I was checking for someone who had a problem loading patches from them. :rofl:

    Of course it applies to many many others, but Nexus IS pretty fun :yes:
     
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